Do you Believe?

FUCKING PROTESTANTS

Is that guy danceing in Gravs Avitar? How Faggish. I'm ashamed.

Actually, you can just not without a really powerful microscope. But you can see your brain easy, just bash you head open and wala, there it is.

Then perhaps there is a way to see God. We just aren't looking the right way yet.

Can I ask you a question? There is scientific proof of dinosaurs existing millions of years ago, why is this not addressed by the bible? Reality tells me that these things exist, the bible doesn't. You can categorize everything you see as proof of a God, if that's your mindset. If you look at it through another mindset you can see how animals and such adapt over time to their surroundings. If there is a God, it's an unfair situation he/she has put us in, for I see more proof (i.e. the dinosaurs) that he didn't exist, then proof he does.

...You know dinosaurs existed? Did you read that in a book, huh...


I'm not saying that I don't beleave that they existed...I do...but you're telling me that I shouldn't beleave that there is a God because I've read it in a book...or seen things on TV about it...
...Like you have with your lame dinosaur statement...

nope never helped me in anyway...once il see this "GOD" than il beleive he exists

honestly who gives a shit, we are all going to the same place.

nope never helped me in anyway...once il see this "GOD" than il beleive he exists

Have you never believed in anything you haven't seen?

Do you believe in things you see on TV? Do you believe things you read in magazines are true? You have no more proof of these things than any of us today have that there is a God. Accept it. If you can't, think of something more original to say. That line has been used 100,000,000,000,000,0fuckinguberToolongNumber times already. Don't be such a stubborn closed in dumbass, and you might understand a little more about the world.

honestly who gives a shit, we are all going to the same place.

Wtf? In what religion is this true? This isn't even true to atheists...

FUCKING HEBREWS

I doubt this arguement will ever be settled. We will continue to fight and shit. GOD EXISTS!!!!!!!! Now shuddup heathens!!

[Sarcasm]I'm Jewish[/sarcasm]

[Sarcasm]I'm Jewish[/sarcasm]

I'm sorry. I don't have any Jewish candy VM.

[Sarcasm]I'm Jewish[/sarcasm] I'm sorry. I don't have any Jewish candy VM.

you must have not read the sarcasm part

I'm sorry, you must have not read the part about not having any Jewish candy.

I'm sorry, you must have not read the part about not having any Jewish candy.

DUDE, MR.BOB, that was funny, where did that quote come from again??

.... I have decided to read at least one chapter from the Bible a night now. Well last night I read chapter one of the first book...when God made earth I figure that maybe the big bang fits in with that...God made the earth=BIG BANG=earth...??understand?

i have to say, good for you , i ALSO read the bible. put i actually stopped at 1 Samuel it got a bit boring. If your reading the bible make sure its not the King James Version of the Bible. thay revised it so much that it don't make any sense anymore. i got to say that the jahovah's witnesses bible is closest to the original, thay even have books that transalate word for word in the bible. try to pick your favorite line, or quote in the bible. mine is 1 Corinthians, chapter 13 verse 1 to 3.
If I speak in the tongues of man and of angels, but do not have love I have become a sounding piece of brass or a clashing symbol, and If I have the gift of prophesying and am acquainted with all the sacred secrets and of ALL knowledge, and if I have ALL the faith so as to transplant mountains, but do not have love ………..I am nothing :-P
(I actually used this line to “pick up” girls. And have to say it actually works......to some point !!!)

No, I'm saying that God never "appeared." He was ALWAYS THERE. He exists outside of time, therefore he had no "beginning."

I have to say this is correct. it’s like one of those questions like “what came first the egg or the chickin??” just questions that should NOT be answered
(I think in the bible it says one day with god is one thousand years on earth), so if you think about it, in genisis when he said let there be light and another day was let there be oceans, that took thousands and thousands of years to be made. He made it in six days and on the seventh DAY he rested !!

Good point, Silverjinx. As I recall, there are quite a few "Saul's" in the Bible as well.

if you read more it would say saul son of blank blank. Saul son of steve. That was the only way thay called them selves (come on thay didn’t even have toilet paper !!!)

And I have one question for christians: What seperates Jesus from the common man. We are all gods children if I am correct so why is Jesus the one so special???

jesus was there even before the universe was created, he was just put in to mans form ( when he was babtized in his mid 30?) the knowledge( "was sent like a dove") he has before, came back to him. he was there to take up our sins. from adam to the people of jesus. jesus just opened the gates for all of us, the people before jesus well, thay can't go to paradise) only a selected few 144,000 can go to heaven the rest (all of us) go to a paridise like earth (only the good of coarse)!!!

Actually, Muslims and Christians DO believe in the same God. It's in the Koran. They believe that Jesus was a prophet whose words were twisted by men and that Mohammad (the Koran's author) was another prophet who spoke directly to Allah (God). Christianity denies that Mohammad was a prophet. That's the main difference between them.

not only that, muslims do not believe on the new testement (which IS mainly about jesus)
think about this,
if jesus was just a legend why was it that even neopolion (that french army guy) knew about him !!!

PS and i did read all of these post and I have to say i am disapointed.....i guess everyone who do not believe on christ, are like that guy thomas, who does not believe untill thay see, anyone here see that old ass movie ten comandments??? thay actually came out with the dvd version, you must watch it, the additude of the people reminds me of the additude of the people here today....we always talk crap untill the last moment !!!

pps is it posibble to open another thread, this thread actually started a year ago !!!

Not gonna quote ya because I don't want to have to separate your quotes from the other quotes, but I will reply.

I got the quote from Southpark. Cartman is taunting Kyle.

only a selected few 144,000 can go to heaven

Only some religions believe that. That's quite a generalization to throw out really.

I think in the bible it says one day with god is one thousand years on earth

Actually, I may have used this reference when debating the issue of evolution somewhere on Zelaron. I'm not sure where it was... but anyway, the point was that I believe in a form of evolution.

I believe that humans actually did evolve over a long period of time. That period of time would be a day of God's time. The only problem is the scale of time, and the only idea I have in that area is that one day to God is not actually 1000 years. Perhaps the Bible only makes the statement to say that God's time passes much more slowly than that of mortals.

It makes sense to me...

I believe that humans actually did evolve over a long period of time. That period of time would be a day of God's time. The only problem is the scale of time, and the only idea I have in that area is that one day to God is not actually 1000 years. Perhaps the Bible only makes the statement to say that God's time passes much more slowly than that of mortals. It makes sense to me...

Thats the way I have always looked at it, for one it explains the whole dinosaur thing. Two it also goes along woth what scientist have found regaurding that of a race of neanderthals.

I have always thought od Adam & Eve as neanderthals, this also explains the barbaric nature of the people dipicted in the "Old Testament " of the Bible. The whole sacrifice thing.

But see it as you want.

i quoted "no, i don't believe", but that's not the truth, you need something bigger in a dark hour that keeps you crawlin' and biting, that's it,..

there is a nice tale, with a bit taste of chicken and egg question,
it's about a King , a princess , 3 princes and 3 unique rings, The sweet princess just turned 18 , and the 3 princes want to **** her , the king says :"There is only one Original ring, the prince who owns it, is allowed to marry her, or whatever "

each ring is owned by a prince, there's one original, but the others are perfect replicas (some say it was the matrix method, some say there always have been 3 rings)
and every prince claims to have the original , all rings are very old (1.00) and nobody can remember which Stone of Jordan is the elder one. These Princes are still alive, one is riding on his lockhead&martin Rockets from the west and looks like .... superman ... oh no i was just ... G.W.B., the second one rides on his horse from the east with an AK 47 in a hand , but's what with the third one , he should be some kind of peacekeeper , he should us remember that all 3 princes are brothers too , some people say you have in every situation at least 3 choices , but some say "Tertium non datur"

every human being has the same possibillities like jesus or mohammed, but i think this is just to much in 3 different ways,
so better make your choice

hopefully this will lead to (advanced) gaming theroy , a great topic to discuss on zelaron

*eyes bug out*

Wtf?

well i believe in god in my case i think there's is a god i believe there's someone who's a supreme being who always watch over us and also in my point of view the death is just the beginning of something new at least for me the death is not the end of everything