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blckshdwdragon thinks hue has something to do with gray and black
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Posted 2004-09-20, 09:20 PM
for scantrons thats about the only way u can cheat, but id say about a 30-40% hue would do quite nicely, i tried it out once. getting the right shadeing is TRICKY and requires practice and trial and error. i got to be a TA for a while and actually graded scantrons during HS. last note, the master bubble doesnt work, since u scan the master scantron first and the answers wont reset if you introduce another master key. the only way to get it to work is by reseting the machine and making ursa the key which is highly unlikely : /
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Posted 2004-09-21, 08:29 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post "blckshdwdragon thinks hue has something..."
Um, hue is part of the spectrum. Ie. a red hue, a magenta hue.
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Posted 2004-09-21, 12:51 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "Um, hue is part of the spectrum. Ie. a..."
I always thought it just looked for black marks on the paper in certain points . You guys are to complex.
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Posted 2004-09-21, 01:25 PM in reply to Arbitus's post starting "I always thought it just looked for..."
It does, but you used the word hue, which has nothing to do with shades of gray, and everything to do with colors of the rainbow.

hue n. 1. The property of colors by which they can be perceived as ranging from red through yellow, green, and blue, as determined by the dominant wavelength of the light.

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Posted 2004-09-21, 11:05 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "Um, hue is part of the spectrum. Ie. a..."
WetWired said:
Um, hue is part of the spectrum. Ie. a red hue, a magenta hue.
Quoted from websters:
Main Entry: hue
Pronunciation: 'hyü
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English hewe, from Old English hIw; akin to Old Norse hy plant down, Gothic hiwi form
1 : COMPLEXION, ASPECT <political parties of every hue -- Louis Wasserman>
2 a : COLOR b : gradation of color c : the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors -- compare BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4

Black is decomposed of ALL of the colors. Hence hue, or tone are appropriate.

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Posted 2004-09-22, 08:00 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "Quoted from websters: Main Entry: hue..."
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Black is decomposed of ALL of the colors. Hence hue, or tone are appropriate
No, hue is that which allows distinction between the colors of the spectrum.

Why do I bother? Obviously you're a moron.
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Posted 2004-09-22, 02:19 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "No, hue is that which allows..."
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No, hue is that which allows distinction between the colors of the spectrum.

Why do I bother? Obviously you're a moron.
Word. "blck" needs to go and decompose somewhere.
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Posted 2004-09-23, 12:38 AM in reply to WetWired's post starting "No, hue is that which allows..."
WetWired said:
No, hue is that which allows distinction between the colors of the spectrum.

Why do I bother? Obviously you're a moron.
Did you bother to read the dictionary?
Read definition 2 a, b, c that i listed.
Go argue that to Websters, scientist, or english professor.
Your obviously being ignorant to the definition to hue, and implicating that your assumed definition of hue is the factual definition of hue.
why dont you read this again:
2 a : COLOR b : gradation of color c : the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors -- compare BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4

You dont have either logic or sense to the definition of hue.

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Posted 2004-09-23, 07:46 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "Did you bother to read the dictionary?..."
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the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors -- compare BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4
(the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors )-- compare (ie. as opposed to) BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4
The definitions all say the same thing, and none of them say black. You're a fucking moron, quit proving it to all the members.
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Posted 2004-09-23, 08:15 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "Did you bother to read the dictionary?..."
It says between those colors which would automatically rule black out of the equation because black isn't between anything. Now shut up and quit while you're behind.

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Posted 2004-09-23, 11:58 AM in reply to RoboticSilence's post starting "It says between those colors which..."
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It says between those colors which would automatically rule black out of the equation because black isn't between anything. Now shut up and quit while you're behind.
man go argue this with a color expert or whom ever. Black = 0 of red, green, and blue. Since contigious means any combination idiots. Not only that you both havent read "compare BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4" tards. Ive talked to a Professional photographer about this in the past, thus it is appropriate to call it either a tone/half tone or hue you fuck tards. Go fucking play with any image editor, like photoshop or paint shop, and ask yourselves would professionals make hues(tones/half tones) for black/gray?
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Posted 2004-09-23, 12:01 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "(the attribute of colors that permits..."
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(the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors )-- compare (ie. as opposed to) BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4
The definitions all say the same thing, and none of them say black. You're a fucking moron, quit proving it to all the members.
wtf? you just repeated what i just said, except that black is composed of 3 colors genius, by your logic we cant get black from anything but black, but if we mix the 3 primary's wtf do we get? whos the fucking moron now? it aint me
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Posted 2004-09-23, 01:39 PM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "wtf? you just repeated what i just..."
You separated it wrong. It says that hue is what enables you to classify a color as being red, yellow, green, blue, or where it is between any two of those colors that are adjacent in the list, then says that you should also investigate the definitions of brightness, lightness, and saturation. You mistook the intermediate phrase to mean between any colors, whereas it included the word "these" to indicate that it only meant the previously mentioned colors, and then mistook "BRIGHTNESS 2, LIGHTNESS 2, SATURATION 4" to mean that those were alternate definitions, which they were not.
Black is not between any pair of colors; it is without hue, as its saturation of 0 indicates.
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Posted 2004-09-23, 02:11 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "You separated it wrong. It says that..."
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh snap!
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Posted 2004-09-23, 03:09 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "You separated it wrong. It says that..."
In simple terms, black and grey are made form equal ammounts of the three primarys. Greys and black can't have hue because no single color stands out in them.
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Posted 2004-09-23, 04:37 PM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post "blckshdwdragon thinks hue has something..."
Ugh, too lazy to read all of this.

For the HSL scale, Hue is somewhat alike the wavelength of colour as WW stated. Hue always evaluates to true, meaning you always need a "pure" colour hue, such as "red", "blue", "indigo", "violet" and such.
Saturation is the pureness of colour. No saturation results in a grayscale ranging from white to black. Full saturation is pure colour; as the hue seems.
Lightness/Value/Blackness determines the darkness of a colour. 0 value means pure black, despite what hue or saturation your colour has. Full value means pure illuminance of the colour.

For instance, a red hue with full saturation and full value becomes pure "red", more red than you would ever see in nature. A red ferrari never has a fully saturated red colour in reality. Any hue with no (or low) saturation and high value will be light gray, or white.

Technically, you could do a very nice-looking painting with only one single hue, say red. You could easily vary the red to, say, pure black, dark gray, white, dark red, and pinkish by playing with the saturation and value alone. There are also certain tricks that can make one red with high saturation look like a completely different hue when surrounded by low saturation red of the same hue. Colour balance takes lots of time to get used to, but it works.
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Posted 2004-09-23, 07:07 PM in reply to Chruser's post starting "Ugh, too lazy to read all of this. ..."
im done talking about this issue (logically, see above post for arguement). Whatever bliss you with to embrace is up to you, but the fact is black has a hue, for yourselves and self knowledge you can find out from someone who knows or look for it on the internet its there. Stores sell black hue paint, as writers (professional) or of certain topics like black/african use such phrases as "black hue", "hue of black", or "Grumbacher Academy Acrylic Colors 3 oz. tube mars black hue", have a nice day
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Posted 2004-09-26, 05:02 PM in reply to Chruser's post starting "Ugh, too lazy to read all of this. ..."
The L stands for Luminance, Chris.
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Posted 2004-09-26, 06:19 PM in reply to Randuin's post starting "The L stands for Luminance, Chris."
And peopel tell me I get into fights over retarded things...
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Posted 2004-09-27, 09:55 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "And peopel tell me I get into fights..."
He's a webmaster, he's not supposed to be retarded like that.
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