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Posted 2007-11-30, 07:35 PM
Ok, you have two circles such as these: http://www.cut-the-knot.org/Outline/...gCircles.shtml

The bigger circle has the equation x^2+y^2=16. The smaller circle has a radius of 1. If we were to have the smaller circle go around the bigger one (as though the bigger one were a surface and the smaller one were a tire) and we kept track of a single point on the edge of the smaller tire and drew a dot on every point it touched on the plane, once the smaller tire had made a complete revolution around the bigger one, what would the total enclosed area be that the point on the smaller tire made?
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Posted 2007-12-01, 05:39 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Math challenge!"
Hey MJ, whats your IQ.
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Posted 2007-12-01, 06:26 PM in reply to kaos's post starting "Hey MJ, whats your IQ."
kaos said:
Hey MJ, whats your IQ.
Lol, that's not relevant. More importantly, I don't know. It's not that complicated of a problem. If nobody gets it in a couple of days, I'll post a hint.
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Posted 2007-12-01, 07:20 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Lol, that's not relevant. More..."
mjordan2nd said:
It's not that complicated of a problem.
WTF. I don't even know what those small upper-type arrows are.
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Posted 2007-12-01, 07:21 PM in reply to kaos's post starting "WTF. I don't even know what those small..."
kaos said:
WTF. I don't even know what those small upper-type arrows are.
"x squared"

^ = exponent
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Posted 2007-12-01, 07:22 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting ""x squared" ^ = exponent"
Now that you've blessed me. Lemme give it a try.

Edit: Nevermind I came across this shit "||" and got stumped.

I quit.

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Posted 2007-12-02, 12:29 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Math challenge!"
Geometry hurts me.
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Posted 2007-12-02, 01:18 PM in reply to KagomJack's post starting "Geometry hurts me."
Hint: The parametric equations of the path created by the point on circle r=1 are x(t)=5cos(t)+cos(5t), y(t)=5sin(t)+sin(5t), where 0<=t<=2*pi
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Posted 2007-12-03, 03:30 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Hint: The parametric equations of the..."
Here's a better picture:



It's like the one on the right.
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Posted 2007-12-03, 04:08 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Here's a better picture: ..."
Ah, that makes more sense.

The question confused me somewhat:

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If we were to have the smaller circle go around the bigger one (as though the bigger one were a surface and the smaller one were a tire) and we kept track of a single point on the edge of the smaller tire and drew a dot on every point it touched on the plane, once the smaller tire had made a complete revolution around the bigger one, what would the total enclosed area be that the point on the smaller tire made?
To me that meant a dot everytime it touched the other circle, and thus the area enclosed by those dots - the area of the bigger circle.

I've got a vague idea of how I might solve it, so I might get it done during my free's tomorrow. Or give it to one of my Uber Maths Genius friends and see what they make of it.

EDIT: I wonder if I can somehow make it a graph and use integration to find the area of each curve over the circle, and then add in the area of the circle...

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Posted 2007-12-03, 08:59 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Ah, that makes more sense. The..."
Lenny said:
EDIT: I wonder if I can somehow make it a graph and use integration to find the area of each curve over the circle, and then add in the area of the circle...
You're on the right track.
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