William Birkin vs. Dante

I have two reasons for making this thread:

1. I may be banned for posting, but I am the only goddam member who is trying to keep a great idea from dying.
2. I am experimenting with different kinds of characters to find Dante's weakspot.

I have little hope that Birkin willl win, which sucks because I always found him extremely cool. I'll give it my best shot, however.

Because William Birkin isn't as nearly well-known as Dante, I'll post a description of him:

Name: William Birkin
Game: Resident Evil 2
Species: Mutant Human
Gender: Male
Height: Varies
Weight: Varies

William Birkin was the evil genius behind both the terrible T-Virus and the even more potentially destructive agent, the G-Virus. Upon being shot, he injected his beloved G-Virus into himself. He mutated, becoming possibly the most indestructible creature ever in the RE series. (Never played RE4)

He mutates a few times in the game and here's the series of mutations.

1st Form - He's only grown a few feet and he's still vaguely human. He looks like a large zombie. In this form, he's still extremely deadly. His fingernails are claw-like and his strength is impressive. He also employs a heavy pipe to aid in his destruction.

2nd Form - When you see him, he lets out an unearthly yell as his deformed human head is pulled into his body, to be replaced by a new one! He also has grown claws on one hand. In this battle, he punches you with his large fist and then slashes you with the claw.

3rd Form - My favorite one. He has grown two extra arms. He now has two arms with large fists and two bigger arms ending with hellish claws that can shred you in seconds. He also has grown more mobile. He now can make large leaps.

4th Form - He now has two massive arms ending in even bigger and more deadly claws. He isn't very fast, but he makes up his slowness with awesome strength.

5th Form - He falls on the ground and now becomes a monsters with four legs and a long head that ends in spike-like teeth. He now can leap and move more easily. He'll jump and attempt to grab you, shaking you viciously before he slams you to the ground.

6th Form - Ugly as sin. A giant mass of spikes/teeth that are moved by a couple tentacles. These tentacles are very powerful, fo rthey can move his humongous form around. If they grabbed any form and pulled you into those spikes...

Birkin was finally wiped out in an explosion. (Claire and the others never manged to kill him through a one-on-one fight) After terrorizing your team for the duration of the game, he was finally dead.

That's what Dante has to fight.

Technically, Birkin isn't responsible for the T-Virus. James Marcus was. Birkin only developed the G-Virus.

Also, it should be noted that in his first form, a single swing from his pipe is instant death. Even using a cheat device for invincibility won't protect you. You get hit with that pipe and you die. Period.

Technically, Birkin isn't responsible for the T-Virus. James Marcus was. Birkin only developed the G-Virus.

I know I heard somewhere in RE2's dialogue that Birkin made the T-Virus... I don't know. I'll check the script.

Also, it should be noted that in his first form, a single swing from his pipe is instant death. Even using a cheat device for invincibility won't protect you. You get hit with that pipe and you die. Period.

To tell you the truth, that's a major reason why I like the guy. That little glitch or whatever it was just made him seem so much more badass.

Birkin took over Marcus' work in the late 70's. James Marcus founded the Umbrella Corporation with Spencer in the 1950's and created the Progenitor Virus, which became the T-Virus after he mixed it with leech DNA.

Birkin advanced the T-Virus, but he absolutely did not create it. Excerpts from Resident Evil Zero as prooof:

Marcus' Diary 1


December 4th
We finally did it....the new virus! We have called it the "Progenitor". I want to carry it back and start detailed invesgations immediately.

September 19th
At last...I've discovered a way to build a new virus type with "Progenitor" as a base. Mixing it with leech DNA was a breakthrough I needed.. I call this new virus "T", for "Tyrant".

No one will step forward to say Dante will win? I mean, the odds are slim that he'll survive, but at least give it a shot. I don't know shit about Dante, so making a battle scenario with just what I know will end up with a very limited and understandably bias conclusion.

Sorry to go a bit off topic here, but do any of you two know where I can get the whole RE storyline.

The one major weakness of William Birkin is he is way too slow, except for his Cerberus form.

The general tactics of fighting Mutated William goes like "Keep a good distance, Attack, Run around before he strikes." He usually makes large action before he strikes, for example, raising his arm.

As for the instant death pipe hit, I'm not too sure about since when I played RE2, I didn't die in one hit... but then I was playing the PC version. Either way, it is not hard at all to dodge the hit, not to mention his first form is quite weak (at least, he ran away after a few shot).

And I wasn't even talking about Dante, I was talking about how a human would take on William.

As for Dante? Well, there are many different ways Dante can defeat him. (Talking DMC3 now) For firearm, the easiest choice would Ebony & Ivory with Kalina Ann (dual pistols and a Rocket Launcher, and there's no need to worry about ammos).

As for his devil arms? Well.. it's a bit tough, but any weapon would work. I'll go with Agni & Rudra + Nevan.

Style-wise, having Trickster is not necessary, because it is easy enough to dodge William's attack as it is. (Quick Roll and Air Hike are enough)

SwordMaster and Royal Guard would be the best for this battle. SwordMaster will end this fight so much faster, while Royal Guard will... render Dante untouchable.

As I've mentioned, the general tactic is not to stay too close, and not too far because William will jump (not that it is a problem for Dante). At a mid distance, it is free shot with Kalina Ann. To be honest, I think William will go down with several Rockets... no matter which form he is in. (also, this is mutation, not transformation, so he cannot go back to his previous form)

Dante can certainly do this with the Rocket Launcher, too. With his Ebony & Ivory... he can rain bullets onto William. While E&I works well in any distance, I'd say Dante will get close just for argument's sake.

(Assumming SwordMaster)
Equipped with the electric guitar Nevan, the first move will be "Reverb Shock," charged into the enemy with lightning along with electric bats. Then just for style, he will Tune-up right in front of William. (Tune-up will stun any nearby enemies, and can be followed up with varies combo)

After the Tune up, Dante can get into Jam Session, summoning a swarm of bats to charge at his foe.

And those he would do just for the style (and it will fill up his devil gauge). To get serious, Dante will go into Devil Trigger and execute Air Raid. Flying around in the air and shooting Thunder Bolt, and occasionally go personal with Vortex, dealing massive damage.

That's only with one weapon though. Dante can switch Firearm/Devilarm at any given time as long as he is not executing a move. So, at anytime, he can switch to Agni & Rudra and call upon the power of Fire and Wind. The most powerful moves from A&R would be Aerial Cross, Crossed Swords, Sky Dance, Twister/Tempest. At a mid/far distance, Dante can also use Crawler, which call fire up from the ground toward the enemies.

Twister/Tempest is when Dante spins his swords really fast, and create a vortex of flame and wind to destroy anything in the area.

You might say that Dante will get hit sometimes. I really doubt that he would, due to the slowness of William, but even if Dante gets hit, it will not be the deadly attacks (since they are predictable). With the fast health regeneration in Nevan Devil Trigger, those lost health will be regained in no time.

(Assuming Royal Guard)
With Royal Guard, Dante will lose a few fancy moves such as Twister/Tempest, Sky Dance, Crossed Sword, Distortion etc. But he gains the blocking ability. and it is not JUST blocking, but it is block and charge.

Dante can block any attack with Royal Guard in DMC3. From the small sickle attack to huge-tentacle-whole-screen-wipe-out attack (which appear in DMC3). While the attack is blocked, the energy will be charged, and Dante can release it back to the them when he wants to, doing huge damage. The harder they hit... the harder they will get it back.

Also, there is the Ultimate move, which is blocking technique. But instead of JUST blocking, it blocks and ABSORBS the energy, and in turns healing Dante himself.

Except for Air Raid, all these moves do not require Devil Gauge at all and can be execute at any time (most are ground only) with any weapon.