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Debate: The Death Penalty.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 01:44 AM
A truely controversial subject. Is it humane and ethical to euthanize America's most violent inmates? Should the death penalty be abolished in favor of counseling and life long prison sentences? The topic is set. Debate away.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 06:34 AM in reply to Sovereign's post "Debate: The Death Penalty."
Sovereign said:
Is it humane and ethical to euthanize America's most violent inmates?
yes.


Sovereign said:
Should the death penalty be abolished in favor of counseling and life long prison sentences?
no.

why? the term "most violent inmates" would most likely refer to a murderer or a mass murderer. but, the question isn't "is the death penalty humane and ethical?". it's "how inhumane and unethical should the death penalty be?". what's controversial about it? you kill someone, you get killed. pretty simple if you ask me.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:41 AM in reply to symnzXx's post starting "yes. no. why? the term "most..."
Yes, but think about it..

Bill kills someone, he gets the death penalty. Then to put him to death, someone is actually technically killing him by injecting the lethal injection.

So in the end, someone is getting away with murder.


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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:43 AM in reply to Tyrannicide's post starting "Yes, but think about it.. Bill kills..."
but it's justified because you're killing a killer. killers are bad.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:48 AM in reply to symnzXx's post starting "but it's justified because you're..."
Yes, but then someone is killing and getting away with it. Right after someone else is killed for killing.

Your killing someone because they took someone or someones live/lives away and you're getting away with ending them.

You killing, just liek the other person.


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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:46 AM in reply to Tyrannicide's post starting "Yes, but think about it.. Bill kills..."
No. That is just a dumb way to rationalize the situation. Technically, someone is doing the lethal injection, but they are ordered to do so. They didn't pre-meditate anything. They don't have malicious thoughts about brutally killing another (Let's hope not anyway). It is their job, and even though they may reluctantly do so, that is how they make a living. It's just an eye for an eye.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:48 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "No. That is just a dumb way to..."
Im just tryin to make a good argument why ther should be no death penalty.


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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:51 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "No. That is just a dumb way to..."
Also, if the death penalty was abolished, think of how many dangerous criminals would be filling up our prisions. People are executed because they are a threat to society, and have no hope of rehabilitation.

If I did pay taxes, I woudln't want my money going towards providing housing for some serial killer who raped and murdered 12 young girls.

Let the punishment fit the crime.

People have ONE life. You will never exist again. Once you die, you're dead until time itself ends. To allow someone to take this precious life of a human being without equal collateral would be unacceptable, in my eyes.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:55 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Also, if the death penalty was..."
Good point, but it is still moraly wrong to take lives. Plus, the criminals are good for picking up trash and such. Let them do stuff like that for free.

But then again, the US has a lot more murderes than Canada. We dont have a death penalty cuzz are prisons aren't as full of killers and such.


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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:56 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Also, if the death penalty was..."
I don't know if there will be much back for the other side of the argument. And if Tyrannicide keeps bringing up these *great* comebacks, it will be over before it started.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:56 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Also, if the death penalty was..."
The murderers being in prison thing is kind of a moot point Sov, because our jails are packed constantly. Not that many people are given the DP, and it takes a long time.
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Posted 2004-06-23, 10:48 AM in reply to Tyrannicide's post starting "Yes, but think about it.. Bill kills..."
With that mentality, dog pounds and vets should be shut down for being genocidal killing camps.
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