Round 2! Max Payne vs. Sub Zero

Arena:
The Infernal Cube - A giant block of stone, drifting endlessly throughout the void. The inside is a webwork of stone platforms, walkways, hallways, stairs and ladders, all interweaving into an impossible labyrinth. The inside of the cube knows nothing of the way our physical laws operate, and therefore, gravity is warped. One person can be standing on a platform at the bottom of the chamber, while another stands "upside down" on a staircase on the opposite side without feeling any distortions whatsoever. A combatant placed inside of the cube is a truly unfortunate individual.

In the Red Corner, armed with an impressive assortment of firearms, bullet-time capabilities and a penchant for film noire narrative! The widowed detective, the hunted hunter, from Max Payne: Max Payne!!!

And in the Blue Corner, armed with an assortment of ice-based attacks, superhuman speed and durability, and a bevy of horrifying ways to mutilate his opponent's battered corpse! The arctic ninja, the freezing avenger, from Mortal Kombat: Sub-Zero!!!

As the two enter the distorted realm, they catch one another's eye and carefully figure out their plan of action. As Max sprays an assortment of bullets towards Sub Zero, a huge ice barracade is formed between two pillars and blocks the pre-emptive attack. Again, they eye one another up, and the battle commenses...

Max would bullet-time/shoot Sub Zero in the head while the orb flies toward him and he would either dodge it or get frozen for a second or two..

Well it's impossible to know what the gravity will do to affect the bullets. Max Payne has his hands full though because sub zero is so much faster but he is still human (not sure) so he will die sooner or later.

Max is toast. Sub-Zero(with mask) has his sliding power as well as Ice Clone. If bullets worked, they would simply hit the Ice Clone or Sub-Zero could slide under them and towards Payne. Payne at close quarters combat would be history. SZ freezes his gun and then rips his head off.

There are little options for poor Max.

For one thing, a close range combat would not be anything Max would even attempt. His main weapon arsenal is guns and bullet time, so why would he even bother getting wtihin 30 feet or so of Sub Zero?

This certainly isn't going to be some easy victory for anyone, and certainly a few shot bullets from Max won't cut it this time, but rather this battle will be one of maneuverability, precisely timed attacks, and planned out movements. If Max can use his movements, bullet time, and shooting capabilities to his advantage he definitely stands a chance, but it won't be easy. Sub Zero has much to his disposal and his reflexes are certainly on his side in this battle. It will certainly be a good battle.

Sub-Zero does not only need close-range combat. Vertical ice blast, and Polar Blast can both be used at long distances. And, Ice Clone could be used to take the bullets. While Sub dodges, Max will run out of ammo. In that split second, he's dead. One of the following attacks can get him. He's frozen for a few seconds...


FATALITY!

That awesome one where he lifts Max over his head while frozen and snaps him in half. OH HELL YEAH!

Commentary: This would be a close battle, and whoever lands the first blow would decidedly win the match. However, as Max is neither slow nor stupid, he would most certainly bring the Payne. It is highly unlikely that Max would spend his time firing at an ice clone, and his superior horizontal rolling and diving stunts give him the perfect repertoire to dodge any vertical ice attacks Sub Zero might employ. Ammo depletion is also a non-issue, as Max can fully reload weapons in bullet time while the world is at a standstill around him. All Max has to do is initiate a bullet-time dive, and snipe the meatbag while he is rendered severely slowed and helpless to end this match. Decisive victory to the gun toting hardass cop from NYC. The sun will go down with practiced bravado indeed.

Good arguements... Better than any other.. Sorry Titus.

A) Ice Clone would be used multiple times, like a shield.

B) Polar Blast is not a solid wave of ice that Max can dodge. It surrounds all enemies and freezes them. No fancy footwork or showing down the battle speed won't save him from being frozen.

C) Super Slide is another power that S-Z could use. In seconds he could be tearing Payne apart.

SZ doesn't have any attacks that automatically hit, threfore Max would not automatically get hit with Polar Blast.. Anyway, he would be so busy creating multiple Ice Clones to block the barrage of bullets flying toward him that he wouldn't be able to perform any other attack. SZ only chance is for a close combat fight, and no silly looking slide attack would ever land..

Ah. Sub-Zero could not win on a level playing field. Wait... Isn't this place like a labyrinth? Couldn't he just run? Stage ambushes? He IS a ninja afterall. Stealth can be his ally. No ammount of fire power will save Max if Sub-Zero is waiting for him to step somewhere and he does. Then, BAM! Down Max goes.

[I]Max walks around the corridors looking for his opponent. He can't decide whether to go up the ladder, or through the corridors to the right.

LADDER:
He starts to climb up the ladder. Sub-Zero freezes him while Max while he is climbing and therefor unable to fire accurately.

CORRIDORS:
He begins to walk down the corridors. Sub-Zero is above him, and sends down hits him with Polar Blast. Crashes down and knocks off Max's head.

Max can't compete with stealth ninjas. Just no way. This place is a ninja's dream.

Or a ninja's nightmare, since right side up isn't exactly true here. He could be trying to be super stealthy, but not realize Max is walking right on top of him, upsidedown, not constrained by the laws of gravity. This world is so warped, that I'd think stealth would almost be negated..

Max, however, could easily use the warped world to his advantage. Bullet-time, shoot off many rounds in the air, while leaping upsidedown, then rolling in a seemingly invulnerable location that would cause SZ to become extremely dizzy.. In real time, this world would make anyone confused and nausiated to say the least. In bullet-time, each movement could easily be seen and made without such consequences.

This half real-time, half bullet-time battle would go to Max.

Why whould any of this help Max? Why not Sub-Zero? Gravity could turn upside down on Max. You can't just say this will hurt SZ. It can hurt both of them. It could help Sub-Zero. It's unpredictable.

But...I'm tired of this fight. I never liked either of these characters. So...I may post again, or I may not.

If you would have read my post you would clearly see why it would help Max, and Max alone. Bullet-time. If you can slow down time, you can much easily see and predict the contorsion of the warped world. Period. Max wins. kthxdie.

Meh. I don't feel like arguing to help save SZ's sorry ass. Let him rot.

wat happen if max used up all his bullet time and misses sub zero? then sub can use that chance freeze him, use the superslide to get close and do a 3 hit combo...then freeze and 3 hit combo...and so on until max runs out of hp.

Max payne got freakin infinite bullet time....kinda, free bullet time when he dives so it's all good. Max payne can allways throw a gernade and when ever subzero trys to freeze Max. Max would Dive out of the way and return fire. Really...Max is not a complete retard. Sure Subzero can make a Ice clone thing and freeze the all the bullets, but what are the chances of subzero when max payne sprays so many bullets at a time. Although there is a slight problem when max payne reloads when he is not in bullet time sub zero gets a free hit there...maybe, payne would use a whole dam clip on sub zero.

Max payne got freakin infinite bullet time....kinda, free bullet time when he dives so it's all good. Max payne can allways throw a gernade and when ever subzero trys to freeze Max. Max would Dive out of the way and return fire. Really...Max is not a complete retard. Sure Subzero can make a Ice clone thing and freeze the all the bullets, but what are the chances of subzero when max payne sprays so many bullets at a time. Although there is a slight problem when max payne reloads when he is not in bullet time sub zero gets a free hit there...maybe, payne would use a whole dam clip on sub zero.

wat? infinite bullet times? thats like immortality, u cant give a person an immortality ability.

He has it in the game,he has it here. He is not really immortal. He still can get shot at and die, but it's not a very good chance because because he is diving to the side or the back.

He has it in the game,he has it here. He is not really immortal. He still can get shot at and die, but it's not a very good chance because because he is diving to the side or the back.

in the game he doesnt have infinite bullet times, unless u use the cheats.

so he has unlimited bullet time?


He could just run behind sz *in bullet time* then come out of bullet time and shoot him in the back of the head. G_G