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wwsin set up ? non-ladder.
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Posted 2004-03-08, 07:56 PM
can someone give some ideas on the most perfect melee vs melee wwsin set up please ?

charm items everything.

Thanks
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Posted 2004-03-09, 04:43 AM in reply to synkroniz's post "wwsin set up ? non-ladder."
weapons:2x runeword chaos claws
armor:enigma
helm:gaze
gloves:Steelrend
belt:Verdungo's Hearty Cord
ring:1xraven
1xcraft dl ring with much life.
boots:Shadow Dancer


charms : max/ar/life with a bit max/resis/life
for lamers psn SC
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Posted 2004-03-09, 11:24 AM in reply to BlackKnight's post starting "weapons:2x runeword chaos claws..."
Hmmm I wouldn't recommend using 2 Chaos. Go with an Eth Bartucs or a Fury with 1 Chaos, Also I would use Bramble.
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Posted 2004-03-09, 01:36 PM in reply to Squirt's post starting "Hmmm I wouldn't recommend using 2..."
Why not a Nats mark or a firelizards? I would go with the 2x Choas's for level 2 ww and more chance to cast frozen orb. Bramble is a good idea, but thorns is soo cheap. Enigma would be the best cuz you could tele and then ww, sort of like a barb with enigma.
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Posted 2004-03-09, 01:55 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Why not a Nats mark or a firelizards? I..."
you can say that this assn is a barb with other skills...but she killed much i test it

/edit: @ HandOfHeaven nats mark are to slow so u have a low ww ias/frames

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Posted 2004-03-09, 02:13 PM in reply to BlackKnight's post starting "you can say that this assn is a barb..."
I've seen it done like that, but there's no real point in telie when you can use DF/WW. Using 2 Chaos is a total waste. Personally I don't like Fury claws, but eth tucs are really good. NAts totally sucks ass.
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Posted 2004-03-09, 03:57 PM in reply to Squirt's post starting "I've seen it done like that, but..."
Helm: Crown of Ages
Ammy: Storm Hide
Armor: Enigma Archon/Whyrmhide/Dusk/Wirefleece
Weapon1: Chaos Suwwayah
Weapon2: Fury Suwwayah
Gloves: Trangs (for Venon) / Dracul´s (Life Tap and Huge Open Wounds)
Belt: Arachnid Mesh / Verdungos
Ring1: Raven Frost
Ring2: Bull Katho's (Life leech doen't work in PvP)
Boots: Soul Shenk / Soul Spur

Charms:

5 x Shadow Disciplines
15 x 3/20/20
9 x 20/5 resist all scs
Annihilus


This is what my WW PvP assassin uses. I think it's one of the best setups avaiable. My COA is socketed with 2 x UM runes.
PM me if u need more information like stats, skills, etc ...
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Posted 2004-03-09, 11:04 PM in reply to synkroniz's post "wwsin set up ? non-ladder."
synkroniz said:
can someone give some ideas on the most perfect melee vs melee wwsin set up please ?

charm items everything.

Thanks
about 90% of ur damg wont be from ur claws, mainly venom and OW first off lemme share my build and my thoughts behind them:

helm- shako
ammy- maras
armor- custom nat's
claws- chaos/chaos : chaos/fury havent done enough testing to decide which is better
gloves- trangs/draculs atm will depend on claw testing
belt- verdungos
rings- raven frost/bitterhold
boots- imp shank(will change)
charms- 10x shadow discipline gc's(a couple got life) rest are life resists
switch- shadow claw's

EXPLANATIONS-as u see most are mainly + skills stuff this is to boost venom, weapon block, fade, shadow master and claw mastery, CoS etc u get the idea.

armor:
in my nat armor(3 sockets) i have 3 perf poisen facets 2 lvlup 1 die as only 1 die is needed BECAUSE it is most opt for all around dueling for + 2 shadow skills life PLR, mild PR, how ever a perf bramble would be a bit better choice for some in-specific dueling but IMO my custom nat armor would be more versatile, as in conjuction with PDL and fade ive been able resist pd immensly

claws:
will be decided upon testing not quite sure if the OW% on fury stacks with chaos per each claw but i doubt it

belt, helm - self explanatory dr, mass life boosts, + skills

gloves:
if OW% stacks gloves = trang if not draculs it is

rings:
r frost = explanatory bitterhold for its stats + resists

boots:
best boots i have yet to determine but when the season is over i will choose between up'ed imp shanks, up'ed gore riders, shadow dancer

charms:
10 SD gc's to boost all main skills, offensive and defensive - obvious
the rest are boosters nothing else would be better than life and resists unless u dont need them

sidenote- fade has a hidden bonus for i.e slvl 18 fade = +18% dr when active
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Posted 2004-03-10, 08:09 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "about 90% of ur damg wont be from ur..."
for that side note do you mean it only works for lvl 18 fade or do you mean it is just 1 % dr for each skill?
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Posted 2004-03-10, 10:07 AM in reply to tidus2005's post starting "for that side note do you mean it only..."
tidus2005 said:
for that side note do you mean it only works for lvl 18 fade or do you mean it is just 1 % dr for each skill?
yes for w/e slvl fade u got renders that amount of dr, i ran outta room for that post, like if u had +10 skills with lvl 1 fade = slvl11 fade which would give u 11%dr
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Posted 2004-03-10, 01:49 PM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "yes for w/e slvl fade u got renders..."
I always liked fade, cuz i could never get good hell resistances. Anyways, to the dumbass who put Annihilus as charms, read the thread, it says non-ladder bitch. Pay attention foo.
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Posted 2004-03-10, 02:20 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I always liked fade, cuz i could never..."
HandOfHeaven said:
I always liked fade, cuz i could never get good hell resistances. Anyways, to the dumbass who put Annihilus as charms, read the thread, it says non-ladder bitch. Pay attention foo.
OHO !

Whats the problem with Annihilus on non-ladder ??

I have dozens of them on non-ladder ..

hmmm .. looks like u think there's no annihilus on non-ladder ..

hmmm .. whos dumbass ? me ?

ROFL
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:09 PM in reply to Luhizot's post starting "OHO ! Whats the problem with..."
What, did a ladder season end already?
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:13 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "What, did a ladder season end already?"
Annihilus charms are not ladder-only
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:16 PM in reply to Luhizot's post starting "Annihilus charms are not ladder-only"
Oh god, I am soo retarded. I was probably thinking about gheeds fortune. My apologies, haha man i need some sleep.
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:18 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Oh god, I am soo retarded. I was..."
No problem man

oh .. me and u .. lets get back to topic, cause Sover is comming

Omg omg omg 11 !! help ! AAAAAAhhhhh
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:24 PM in reply to Luhizot's post starting "No problem man :) oh .. me and u ....."
::cracks whip:: sovereign is here ::

Im wondering why people wanna make wwsin's. Are they really that good?
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Posted 2004-03-10, 03:27 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "::cracks whip:: sovereign is here ..."
well . i got both Trapsin and WWsin

Trapsin OWNS and WWsin gives u a very enjoyable dueling (since it's too damn boring dueling with a trapsin - traps / mindblast / traps .. no end)
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Posted 2004-03-10, 04:42 PM in reply to Luhizot's post starting "well . i got both Trapsin and WWsin ..."
I hear as some people have said it's (wwsin) basically a barb with new skills. You can have like super venom on and do mindblast and shit also. And with teleport from enigma, you are basically unstoppable by most melee chars.
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Posted 2004-03-10, 05:07 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I hear as some people have said it's..."
as far as melee goes WW barb > ww asn theres no comparison, barbs are raw physical damg while melee based asns are MAINLY OW and venom, hence in my brief explanation the emphasis in OW and high lvl venom while opting all other skills
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