Dude, shut up. I have rarely lost to a barb. The other day i was taking on XE-Malice beat him 6:1 and then Blobs came in to try beat him 5:2. Again nothing to brag about since i have the advantage with a Mage, but they are probally 2 of the best barbs around on West and trust me they do a hell of alot mroe damage then some shitty 12k 2 handed barb. They are Dual wielders using massive deadly strike and Open Wounds and have well over 12k ar. They can get a good 2-3 hits every WW on my Paladin. Trust me barbs are no match for a Mage.