!King_Amazon! said:
What a suprise, Chrome has bought in to even more republican bullshit.
Do you seriously not believe global warming is man-made? Of course the earth heats itself, but not at the rate that we're making it heat.
I never would have expected you of all people to be a fucking redneck republican.
Let me guess, you don't like them coloureds either, and you think racism is a lie, but you're probably racist against hispanics every chance you get. Grab your guns, boys, we gotta go take our country back from these illegals!
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What the fuck is wrong with you? This is not the flame forum. There is no need to attack me like that, I asked a question about global warming not race, if this is all you have to offer keep your fucking mouth shut.
Back on topic now that I have dealt with the riff raff.
I am in fact skeptical
The first thing that comes to mind when I doubt man made global warming is the climate change throughout history and corrosponding CO2 levels coupled with the fact that the Earth moves on it adapts and corrects.
In the 70's we were told(well not me..) that we were headed into an ice age. Not true obviously.
Then I think of volcanoes, The USGS studied Mount Saint Helens' emissions from 1980 to 1988.
At its worst, the output of CO2 was 23,000 tons per day. Or, in other words, what is emitted directly from the tailpipe when 2,371,134 gallons of gasoline are used. This ignores the fuel in the discovery, retrieval, transport, and refining required to actually get the fuel to your vehicle. The earth cooled 1.3 degrees over the next three years. Cooled. Not warmed. Though I damn sure do not want to live on a freezing cold ass planet either.
http://www.iceagenow.com/Ocean_Warming.htm
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/1904.asp
Note, I am all for energy conservation(though not by government controlled thermostats omg scary) I burn wood every cold night in a wood stove in my house. In stead of using electricity, though I don't know about the emissions differences.
I see no problem with driving a hybrid or other more efficient vehicles.
I just think it's kind of absurd to think that we are destroying the planet like some kind of intruders, we belong here, the planet made us and I believe it can take what we throw at it. But indeed wether or not it causes global warming I don't like pollution of any kind and the idea of spewing gasses into the atmosphere bothers me.
The big problem I have with it is not wether or not we are causing cooling or warming, they are preying on our fear, global emissions taxes and such. California's nifty plan to gain controll of thermostats "in an emergency", and this country in general paying billions and billions, not to research and test new energy sources but to offset carbon emissions. I think that every dime paid into global warming should be paid into new energy sources.
Grаν¡tоnЅurgе said:
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Can you source this? I'm just surprised because this is the opposite of what I've heard.
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Maybe I am wrong about Greenland, all evidence I see shows loss of ice.
"Researchers find Antarctic ice is thickening"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science...is-thicker.htm
"China battles "coldest winter in 100 years""
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080204/...ina_weather_dc
I just see plenty of reasons to remain skeptical, plus if you look at the control exerted over the world in the name of global warming it is kind of alarming.