Right.
But if you dont buy either one then...your not going to be playing new games on any console. They just add all that other shit because they can, because the other guys did, because if they dont then everyone wont think its revolutionary, because it ups the prices. I was planning on buying both... but its not going to work out that way. Atleast at first.
The controller handles look to long period... if your were to hold it at the bottom your fingers wouldnt reach the buttons, so unless the handles hold some internal parts then making them that long was a waste of plastic.