well thanks Senesia i actually went out and bought Tekken 5 tonight/last i guess since it is 1:00 am.

and all i have to say is man do my thumbs hurt from playing it. i only have two real complaints so far. First i personally think the movies at the end of the story mode suck. atleast the ones i have seen so far. they no way shape or form come close to the coolness of the ones in Tekken 2&3. Secondly why in the hell is Devil Jin harder than the actual last boss, the boss can kill me if he hits me with a fire ball, but other than that he is a push over for me compared to devil jin. maybe it is just the way i play characters. I hardly ever block i rely on counter hits like jab punches.