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Even if the barrier works outside of the castle, he still obviously needs materials and items from within the castle in order to conjure his barrier, and he doesn't have those available to him in this fight. That ceremonial altar, that circle of power on the floor and the blue lamps surrounding his sphere of mana are what allow him to retain his barrier. Without those items in his possession, he wouldn't be able to summon his barrier in the first place. And, as I stated before in the rules thread, anything that can be categorized as an "item" is forbidden from these tournaments. Sacrificial altars and stationary circles of power are not acessories, armor or weapons, therefore, he's unable to conjure his barrier.
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He wasnt making his barrier with those. He was summoning Lavos. When you arrive this is what he was doing. He doesnt need to summon Lavos in this battle.
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Kuja said:
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Anyway, the element of spell Magus cast arnt the type that Raziel has. Which mean Raziel can change his reaver all he want it still wont be the right element.
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You need to do more homework before making assumptions as hasty as that. Here's the full list of Raziel's Reavers.
The Spectral Reaver - Raziel's Reaver in the Spectral Realm (non elemental)
The Material Reaver - Raziel's standard Material Realm Reaver (non elemental)
The Dark Reaver - Elemental Darkness
The Light Reaver - Elemental Light
The Air Reaver - Elemental Air and Concussive Force
The Fire Reaver - Elemental Fire
The Water Reaver - Elemental Water/Ice
The Earth Reaver - Elemental Earth
The Spirit Reaver - Purified Spirit Energy (not allowed)
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Raziel said:
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Sadly, he does not have any sort of Lightning-based Reaver but I have a solution to that. Should Crono cast Luminaire upon Magus at any point, it is considered to do lightning-based damage, but it is very obviously not an electrical attack. It is a light-based spell (says so in the instruction booklet and the player's guide), therefore, technically Light magic is considered in the same category as Lightning magic. So, Raziel's Light Reaver can obviously substitute.
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Luminaire Destructive dome of pure light. (Lightning elemental.)
Why would it change element because it create light ?
Ultima is considered a non-elemental spell yet it is a full of light.
Crono attack is doing lightning damage it wont actualy change because it's called Luminaire. He can only use attack of the Lightning element. Told again by Spekkio. Twisting the spell wont make you win
So he can do fire damage ? It still is no required for Magus to cast Fire. As for the physical i still see no reason why it would actualy be doing any sort of damage that would be more then puny on him.
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Raziel can switch between those Reavers instantly and by doing nothing more than thinking about changing the Reaver. Considering the fact that Magus obviously has some sort of flaw in his barrier that alerts enemies to his weakness, Raziel can instantly change his Reaver to suit his new attack method and Magus can't do a thing about it. Plus, should Raziel find himself sick of constantly switching his Reavers, he can use the Material Reaver to do non-elemental damage. Magus has never, under any circumstances shown an ability to absorb non-elemental attacks.
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Now you actualy prove me with that statement that the Reaver is magical. As only enchanted weapon (Which do MAGICAL damage) Can have non-elemental attribute. For elemental attribute like fire it would need physical fire which basicly require a gas and a lighter.(Which i heard he doesnt have and there isnt many gas station in Nosgoth from what i heard) There is no other way. Therefor it is absorbed. So he would be limited to his physical reaver which will prove very useless.
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Kuja said:
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The mimic magic would be just like saying if i threw some dry ice at someone i would be casting a ice spell.
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You said it yourself, "Magus' barrier absorbs all magical energy." If Robo's Laser Spin is being absorbed by Magus' barrier, it's magical. Plus, a creature doesn't have to have a will of it's own to use magic. When Lucca re-programmed Robo she inserted her own will into Robo, thereby giving him the ability to use attacks that mimic magic and cause magical damage. Raziel's Reaver is not magical, therefore it would cut right through the barrier either way.
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Twisting word wont give you a win on this battle. She doesnt give him her will own will. The machine that you find in the factory have no more will of their own then robo and they can use shadow damage laser as well as other type of laser and sunch. When you will tell me that a diablo2 bot has a will of it's own. I might consider the possibility.
Raziel said:
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Magus' barrier defenses are against weapons, it's not full-coverage protection. If Magus is crushed by a landslide, even with his barrier up, he's going to die. Being thrown into a concrete crypt repeatedly is beyond Magus' defenses. He'll take the same damage regardless of his barrier.
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Why would it be beyond his defence to be trown in a crypt? His barrier isnt weapon based. It is Physical based. A landslide would not kill Magus unless he is very deep and end up not being able to breath.
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So, then Superman's ability to fly is magical? Wolverine's Healing Factor is magical? No, those things, like Raziel's Reaver, are not magical. They're natural supernormal enhancements, but no magic is involved in their existence. The Wraith Blade is Raziel's own soul, empowered and twisted through millennia of devouring souls and being trapped inside the Soul Reaver blade. When the blade shattered, the Wraith Blade (Raziel's own soul) bound itself to him naturally because they are one in the same. There was no magic involved whatsoever.
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Well considering that Superman power can be supressed without even being touched. It would be Magic. As for Wolverine Healing Factor it would be technological enchancement from gene. The Reaver is not technological or genetic. It is magical as i said above.
Magus has load of defenses.
Raziel said:
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1. He obviously needs a circle of power, an altar and other materials to summon his barrier.
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Correction. To summon Lavos he does.
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2. Even if his barrier somehow works, Magus obviously has a giveaway with his defenses. The game tells the player which spells to cast, and therefore his weakness is plainly visible.
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You proven that the reaver is magical (which doesnt even matter that much) and that he doesnt have lightning damage attacks so that spell and could be casted while also doing physical attack during the whole match and Raziel wouldnt be able to do jack.
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3. Raziel has a Reaver to match every elemental alignment Magus can use, and a few that Magus can't.
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Where is the ice ? Where is the lightning ? Luminare is lightning and it is written in manual and spekkio Chrono can use lightning only.
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4. Robo can use attacks that deal magical damage because it is Lucca's willpower that gives him the ability. He has no will of his own but he has the will of someone else, and that is why his Laser Spin is a magical attack, which is why it is absorbed by Magus' barrier.
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Her will isnt in the machine else spekkio of could given magic and if he had like i said spekkio could give magic and it would be FIRE damage. It is proven there is no will for that damned toy in the game itself. Also, like i said other machine can do these shadow laser attacks and they have no more will then Robo has just like stated in the game. The barrier absorb Magic and elements and make him quite strong almost invul against physical damage.
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5. Magus still has no defense against TK, and being slammed into a stone crypt over and over will eventually either knock him unconscious or kill him entirely. His barrier protects against weapons not being crushed by a boulder.
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Robo tackle doesnt ignore his barrier and it is just as physical and similar to a boulder attack... It is against physical not weapons.