Well, i know better yet i still somehow managed to get infected by Net-Devil and OptiX. Im pretty sure it was one of my friends that came over, cause i had some porn that wasnt mine on here that contained the virus In any instance, im going to make a Sticky on the detection and removal of trojans. Some things may be known about how to do this but i have some info that will make things MUCH easier for the removal of them pesky AV/FW killing Virii.