java barbs down own barbs lol... would only own slow shitty barbs, seeing as how if they were any good they would have atleast 170 frw, 3k hp, max dr, max block. A hybrid barb would espcially own u, run you into a corner, short wirl, make u stop, whip out his javs and make u run.. or what i like to do is short whirl, than leap where they might run, also works on amas too.