I agree with invader...even though we can not grasp these concepts i learn a lot from debating this stuff. Also in response to invader, if the universe can not have the power to be here then what could allow god? I debate myself on this many times, because at times i think that there HAS to be something that started it all, and we could label this god. But also, on the other hand, according to as much as we as humans can understand, something had 2 have created god...so how did it all start. And while we're on this subject, I find it very hard to see how time can be infinite also, although somehow i know it has 2 be. Time can not be stopped....but then how could it all just exist...ehh i dont know.

I know on many of my posts I have come off as an atheist. i am not. I don't believe in god per-say, but if you can offer me enough valid arguments I could change. Honestly I don't know what 2 think...i just have a hard time believing in a superhuman being...that's all.