Okay, what do you guys believe about the whole "punk" fad, you know, avril, blink, anarchy, hot topic, that stuff? i wrote this post for a different message board to some guy so ill give you some parts of it because i dont feel like typing:

I noticed you said that punk originated form the ramones. Thats just blatantly not true. I dont see how people dont know this, but punk originated from Britain. You also say punk is the open rebellion of government. You are confusing the punk movement with Anarchy. And i use the term "movement" very loosley and for lack of better word because punk wasnt a movement at all. You do say that punk was a sub culture, but you treat it as a counter-culture. For example, i will now compare the hippie COUNTER-CULTURE to the punk SUBCULTURE. the hippies were openly against the government and expressed this through rallies, refusing to go to war, and the like. The punks were against reagan/thacher, but did not need to show this because while everyone worshipped them at the time, they blew em off. I agree with you about punk being dead and people actually following individualism, of course, i prefer the term, non-conformism.

ill post more when i see the replies