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Grav 2008-12-04 09:54 PM

Regressing
 
So... over thanksgiving break (a period of 9 days for me) I think I managed to undo about a month (maybe more? I'm not sure yet) of gains. I pretty much lost all common sense and smoked pot, drank beer, and ate food 24/7. I learned my lesson, I won't do that again, but how do you keep those little nags in the back of your brain away? The ones that say "ah, fuck it, just eat what you want, have a piece of cake" or "fuck it, we all die in the end anway?"

!King_Amazon! 2008-12-05 12:07 AM

Willpower.

jamer123 2008-12-05 04:46 AM

im lossing wait but againing musle from running up and down stairs all day im aculey starting to look good from once

talentedhamster 2008-12-05 06:11 AM

you dont have to ignore it completely. give it a little bit of what it wants so its satisfied. like, if you want cake, have cake! just a small piece. doing that makes it so that it doesnt all build up into one week of just gorging, like what happened.

Chruser 2008-12-05 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talentedhamster (Post 661990)
you dont have to ignore it completely. give it a little bit of what it wants so its satisfied. like, if you want cake, have cake! just a small piece. doing that makes it so that it doesnt all build up into one week of just gorging, like what happened.


Actually, that's similar to an alcoholic who tries to stop his drinking habits by only having a small drink every now and then. It doesn't work. Self-induced, complete abstinence from your consummatory nemesis is, however, a viable strategy. Cope with your withdrawal and it will eventually become insignificant. Subsequently, you won't find any need to pamper yourself with your problematic source of endorphins even when you are able to.

Personally, I have found that it takes about four months to completely get past my seemingly intrinsic desire for refined sugar.

D3V 2008-12-05 07:47 AM

That's not entirely true. For you it might be effective to just go cold turkey; however, most people that have eating disorders, if they can learn how to use portion control, can benefit from eating in that fashion. It's a very effective tool if you can just slow yourself down and not eat so much.. really.

!King_Amazon! 2008-12-05 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 662007)
That's not entirely true. For you it might be effective to just go cold turkey; however, most people that have eating disorders, if they can learn how to use portion control, can benefit from eating in that fashion. It's a very effective tool if you can just slow yourself down and not eat so much.. really.

Needing to "treat" yourself is a sign of lack of willpower. The lack of willpower is ultimately what causes failure.

D3V 2008-12-05 08:42 AM

That may be true. I always figure that if you burn enough calories you can almost eat what you want. Just drink a shit ton of water and cut down on the junk. But true, .. it is a lack of willpower.

Grav 2008-12-05 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 662002)
Actually, that's similar to an alcoholic who tries to stop his drinking habits by only having a small drink every now and then. It doesn't work. Self-induced, complete abstinence from your consummatory nemesis is, however, a viable strategy. Cope with your withdrawal and it will eventually become insignificant. Subsequently, you won't find any need to pamper yourself with your problematic source of endorphins even when you are able to.

Personally, I have found that it takes about four months to completely get past my seemingly intrinsic desire for refined sugar.


It can be hard to maintain my willpower, as my moods change so drastically throughout the day that I can go from an iron willed soldier in the morning to a flaky mess by mid afternoon. There is so much pressure to perform at school that there is a "work hard play harder" mechanism that got out of control. Most people I know here are popping adderall by day and taking whippits, drinking liquor or smoking at night. We are probably burning our candles too quickly.

Abstinence will be my new approach, I'll see how it works out.

Titusfied 2008-12-05 11:40 AM

It's true. Did anyone else see the piece the news did on Michael Phelps during the Olympics? He would LITERALLY eat over 13,000 calories a day, but because he swam so much, it was basically the minimum amount he needed to function properly and efficiently. And it wasn't even like a "good" 13,000 calories. It was fatty shit, etc. It was really a very interesting segment.

Titusfied 2008-12-05 11:41 AM

Actually, I was wrong. It's about 12,000 calories per day, and here is the segment about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXRvXtcSu14

D3V 2008-12-05 02:40 PM

Yes, well when you burn it all off you have to keep that intake above and beyond. I know when I was in weight lifting I was eating over 4-5,000 on workout days.

Grav 2008-12-08 06:59 PM

So I actually ended up at the same place I was at before these shenanigans. Not bad.

Willkillforfood 2008-12-08 07:28 PM

I just hope to god you aren't wandering out when you're doing drugs. It'd suck for your opportunity to get wasted.

Grav 2008-12-08 07:45 PM

What are you talking about?

Thanatos 2008-12-10 09:00 AM

Yeah, what are you talking about WKFF?

D3V 2008-12-18 01:34 PM

I'm in your boat now, Grav. I have been regressing the past couple of weeks. My bank account was actually overdrawn, and my gym membership was put on a freeze because of this and haven't been able to get in there the past two weeks or so, it's pretty lame.

Grav 2009-01-11 10:44 AM

Happy to say I did great over this break.

D3V 2009-01-12 11:18 AM

That's excellent. The unschedules periods are always the hardest to keep focused and on track.


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