Frozen?
Hey, you think it would be cool to , when you die like donate your body to some Scince lab so they FREEZE it and BRING U BACK TO LIFE when they are able to.
I think, Right when you died itll be like a dream, and you Imidtly wake up cause you know when you goto bed and wake up it seems like no time has really passed. Anyway thats how you would feel. Now, if you are some RELIGION that prevents this then sure thats prolly not for you since theres prolly some wierd rule saying DUN DO DAT. Anyway, even if they DO fail and your dead forever! which brings me to my next question, if there is no afterlife and all that, why would it be scary to be dead its like dreaming of nothing, you dont FEEL time pass by or think or nothing so theres nothin to be afraid of! and MAYBE u wake up 100000000 years later when some alien finds some extremly small piece of dust that was your brain and uses his TONS of technology to BUILD JOO AGAIN! ... |
but i still can't imagine when u die... i mean... do u just feel... nothing afterwards?
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somebody's been smoking.......
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ever been knocked out cold? and you wake up and it feels like you were out for split second but it was really like 10 minutes,
thats what death is like but on a much larger scale |
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to help you try to understand death, imagine the time BEFORE you were born... you dont remember that time, nor do you miss it. the time before you were alive is often overlooked, when people examine death. as you said... you cant imagine a time when you just dont exist. - imagine the time before your birth... |
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wtf you talking about edipus? i remember before i was born, damn those were some fun days
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"CRYONICS AND THE ALCOR LIFE EXTENSION FOUNDATION
CRYONIC SUSPENSION is an experimental procedure whereby patients who can no longer be kept alive with today's medical abilities are preserved at low temperatures for treatment in the future. Although this procedure is not yet reversible, it is based on the expectation that medical technology of the future will be able to cure today's diseases, reverse the effects of aging, and repair any additional injury caused by the freezing process. That superior technology could then rejuvenate suspended patients to enjoy health and youth indefinitely. The field which deals with this procedure is called CRYONICS. (This should not be confused with "cryogenics," which is the branch of physics which studies very low temperatures.) Cryonics is not a cult or a religion of any kind. The people involved in cryonics hold widely varying views on religion, politics, and social issues. Their occupations include scientists, physicians, computer programmers, business owners, teachers, librarians, and secretaries. However, they all agree that being alive is a wonderful thing and that this technology may help them stay that way. Cryonics might better be seen as a experimental medical technology. This label may seem strange at first, since many people have gotten the mistaken impression that cryonics patients are dead. Cryonics is not a new way of storing dead bodies. It is a new way of saving lives. Cryonicists refer to these frozen people as PATIENTS , because we firmly believe that they are, in some manner, still alive. People really are being frozen; it is no longer science fiction. Approximately 50 persons have been frozen since the first cryonic suspension in 1967. About 300 other people have made the financial and legal arrangements to be suspended in case they should become terminally ill or injured. However, any stories you may read about frozen people being revived are definitely science fiction. No human has ever been thawed out and revived, and it will be a long time before this happens. Medical technology has not yet advanced to the point where cryonic suspension is reversible; today's deadly illnesses and injuries are not yet curable; and even if these things had been accomplished, there is no point in reviving anyone until the aging process is fully under control. No one wants to be reawakened as an aged, infirm person. Cryonics is not yet accepted as a legitimate life-saving procedure by today's medical authorities. With our current technology we cannot prove that a frozen human can be repaired and revived (although a great deal of research suggests that this will be possible in the future). Unfortunately, this situation creates numerous medical, legal, and even political difficulties. For instance, if a patient were to be suspended while he was legally alive, someone might claim that the suspension process itself had killed that patient, creating the possibility of criminal or civil charges against the suspension team. Therefore, current cryonics practice is to suspend dying patients as soon as possible after cardiac arrest (stopping of the heart) and declaration of "legal death." This course of action can be seen as reasonable once one realizes that "legal death" is not the same as "biological death." A physician declares legal death when a patient's condition cannot be repaired with current medical knowledge and techniques. However, the process of deterioration which we call "dying" is not a sudden happening. It is much more like slipping into an ever deepening coma. Even several hours after declaration of death, most of the cells in the body (including those in the brain) are still individually alive and ready to regain function. As late as the 1940's, people who stopped breathing because of heart attacks or drowning were routinely declared dead. Today thousands of people have survived heart attacks and other conditions which would have been fatal 40 years ago. Children have survived over an hour of "drowning" in cold water. Were those heart attack and drowning victims really dead forty years ago, but nature has changed the rules today? Of course not; those people were still alive-- doctors just did not know what to do about it. In the same way, most people who are declared dead TODAY would be called "alive" by doctors of the future. With that prospect in mind, we think these patients should be considered "alive" NOW, and we should do something to KEEP them that way. Even within the next 10-15 years, you are likely to be amazed by the amount of progress in recovering patients from strokes, heart attacks, and lack of oxygen to the brain. Ultimately, it should be possible to recover patients as long as basic brain structure remains intact (several hours past the point at which today's doctors give up). In the next century, the medical knowledge of the 1980's will seem as primitive as the medical understandings of one hundred years ago seem to us. Cryonic suspension itself will cure nothing, but it buys time for the patient, keeping his body virtually unchanged until a future when his frozen condition may be considered only an extremely deep coma. Even now there is solid evidence that cooling the human body to liquid nitrogen temperature (-320o F), with the use of techniques to reduce freezing injury, can preserve the fine structure of the brain indefinitely. There is no guarantee that cryonic suspension will ever allow for future revival. We do not know enough to state absolutely that this procedure is workable. However, the case for the possible future revival of suspended patients grows stronger all of the time. One recent argument in favor of future repair and revival of suspended patients was provided by K. Eric Drexler in his fascinating book, ENGINES OF CREATION (Doubleday, 1986). This book details the beginnings of the new field of "nanotechnology" (also called "molecular engineering"). Nanotechnology is the next step smaller than micro- technology, and it will create industries which will operate by working with atoms and molecules one at a time. Among other astounding developments, this will lead to computers and cell repair machines one thousand times smaller than a human cell. Such devices could repair any disease or injury (including that from freezing) by working directly on the cells themselves. It must be pointed out that cryonicists are not people with some fixation on cold temperatures. None of us want to be frozen. We are simply people who like being alive, and who want to see the future and all of its wonders. For us, cryonics provides a safety net, a last- ditch attempt at life-saving which may give us the chance to see that future. Our cryonics organization, Alcor Life Extension Foundation ("Alcor"), is a California not-for-profit corporation, registered with the Internal Revenue Service as a tax-exempt scientific organization. Alcor has a fully equipped and operational research laboratory, operating room, and patient storage facility in Riverside, California. Alcor was formed as a mutual aid society, where the members are committed to helping each other. All Alcor board members, officials, and suspension team personnel are required to be full suspension members. We do not want a situation which could pit "Alcor" against "the members." Alcor IS its members. All decisions on the safety of the patients and stability of the organization are made with the knowledge that they will affect everyone in the organization. " |
people fear death as the worst of fears but they fearwithout even knowing it........
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did you know that they supossedly froze walt disney cryogenicly and they plan on unfreezing him to see if he can still live but remember people i just heard this i'm not saying it's true.
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For all we may know we might be 'dead' already and living in hell.
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*evil like* oh no not hell my friend...not hell *muh ha ha ha haaa
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You'll never know. This might be a realm (Hell) where we can redeem ourselves so that when we 'die', we get to goto Heaven.
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I thought the whole concept of hell was, when you die, you go to hell assuming you have sinned and all that good stuff. Once you're there, you're fucked. Eternal suffering...no getting to heaven where there are girls wit huge tits to welcome you :p
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well I am religious and this is what I think. Life is just a test to see which path you will go on once you die. So life is just the beginning to a much bigger reality.
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milicia wat u said about walt disney.. i heard the same thing but on a tv show it was a trivia questin and that really didnt happen hes buring somewhere in cali... i ferget where but they said it
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I thought that you can't freeze people. The brain liquids (something along that line) will be fucked once it has been frozen for a long time and then de-froze again and you brain won't work.
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their blood would expand and they would die of that when they are unfrozen
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sucks to be them lol
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umm thats why penguin said there waiting for future technologys that could undo this damage
but back to my point where have your people's ethics gone? is life something so simple to just be bartered with like a frozen hamburger I belive when man kind breaks the secret of this and genectics there will be no more value in human life so instead of technologys original purpose to improve human life this would just be a big degrade on everything we have ever belived in... Also if there is no such place as heaven (which I have reason to belive there is) then death will more than likely be a relese from all the tensions of normal existence or and extended sense of peace hopefully with a nice dream to go along with it (people are so confused about the current reality I really don't think there would be much of a loss in one created by yourself) just one more thing have any of you guys heard of this thing called a SOUL and don't you feel it inside yourself? (so many unbelivers now it's kinda crazy) |
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