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symnzXx 2004-09-14 06:09 PM

got a question about netgear routers.
 
my netgear router is set up to have different internet schedules for certain ips.

ie:
192.168.0.1 - admin (always on)
192.168.0.4 - mine (restrictive schedule)

would there be a way for me to spoof my ip to the router, say to make it .1, to have internet ALL the time instead of the planned schedule?

Vollstrecker 2004-09-14 06:28 PM

Color me crazy, but doesn't the Router assign IPs for when it NATs from External -> Internal network? That doesn't seem like it would work, since when it assigns IPs, it's based on your MAC address, which is hardwired.

I'm not 100% on that though. Networking is my Dad's gig, not mine.

Demosthenes 2004-09-14 06:32 PM

192.168.0.1 is probably your router's IP. I'm sure there are ways to change it, but you'll have to read the manual for it. I don't have a netgear router.

symnzXx 2004-09-14 06:38 PM

no, i'm talking about spoofing my internal ip to the router. it assigns ips based on how many computers are connected (chronologically) to the network and once it assigns you an ip it doesn't change until you unplug your connection to the router.

Demosthenes 2004-09-14 06:54 PM

You should give up on that one. I'm sure it can be done, but it's probably quite complex, and I have no clue as to how it's done. If you really want to do it for some reason, check out RFC 793, 1825, and 1948.

symnzXx 2004-09-14 06:55 PM

i tried doing it the easy way (through control panel) and it told me "that static ip is already in use". so yeah, i think it would be a lot more complex than i'm thinking.

Demosthenes 2004-09-14 07:04 PM

Have you tried changing your routers settings?

symnzXx 2004-09-14 07:12 PM

i can access the settings, but it requires a password. it's one of those internal website things that you connect to using an internal ip.

kockblocker1 2004-09-14 07:19 PM

Try 192.168.1.2 Or 192.168.0.2

Don't forget to set your DNS server IPs and subnet mask. Just use the Subnet you currently have (command prompt: ipconfig /all). Your gateway should be 192.168.1.1. Any Internet DNS IP should work for internet access. Just because you are restricted to that 1 DHCP address doesn't necessarily mean you can't physically assign yourself another. If that router model is locking your particular LAN port to that specific IP than you may need to change ports on the Router/Switch.

Demosthenes 2004-09-14 07:23 PM

Or, go to 192.168.0.1 and type:

Username: Admin
Password: Password

or

Username: Admin
Password: 1234

Vollstrecker 2004-09-14 07:51 PM

I hear default for Netgear is:

User:
Password: admin

(Yes, nothing in the user field)

That should be default, unless it was changed.

‡AC‡ 2004-09-15 06:39 AM

I have a netgear router
default is

Admin
password

Vollstrecker 2004-09-15 12:58 PM

Meh. I guess Dad's info is outdated.

symnzXx 2004-09-15 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kockblocker1
Try 192.168.1.2 Or 192.168.0.2

Don't forget to set your DNS server IPs and subnet mask. Just use the Subnet you currently have (command prompt: ipconfig /all). Your gateway should be 192.168.1.1. Any Internet DNS IP should work for internet access. Just because you are restricted to that 1 DHCP address doesn't necessarily mean you can't physically assign yourself another. If that router model is locking your particular LAN port to that specific IP than you may need to change ports on the Router/Switch.

i tried that with no success. i think he has me locked down pretty good..

he's not stupid enough to leave admin passwords default, so, short of trojanning/keylogging him, i don't think there is anything i can do.


just a thought.. when i enter 192.168.0.1 it tells me it's in use. could i just pull his ethernet cable and then use .1 as the ip since it'll no longer be in use?
note: it's a 4 port router. switching ports does nothing.

kockblocker1 2004-09-15 03:09 PM

To get to the router config you need to type in 192.168.0.1 yes? If so than you cannot use that IP because it belongs to the router.

Another cool thing to try is this:
Go get another router. They are pretty cheap nowadays, or you could just borrow one from a friend to see if it works. Put your router before your dad’s netgear. For example:

Out of the DSL/Cable box – In the WAN port on your router out one of the LAN ports – In the WAN port on the Netgear

If you can hide the box, aside from his router now having an internal IP on the WAN port, it could be transparent to him. You would want to assign the port/ip (depending on which your router supports) going to the Netgear in the DMZ. That way if he had special ports open for certain apps it would remain open for him. Plug your computer into your router and you are good to go.

blckshdwdragon 2004-09-15 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symnzXx
my netgear router is set up to have different internet schedules for certain ips.

ie:
192.168.0.1 - admin (always on)
192.168.0.4 - mine (restrictive schedule)

would there be a way for me to spoof my ip to the router, say to make it .1, to have internet ALL the time instead of the planned schedule?

this also depends on how the settings were done. you could try to get another ip by reconnecting to the router. there is a way to spoof your ip to the router. to do it, im not sure yet. from what i kno the DHCP assigns you that address. i would be pesimistic on getting a new ip since admins can control how many clients can be hooked up; it really depends on exactly how he restricted you. Another way would be to go hard lined and hook up to your router to get a new ip assuming if its a wireless router, but that leaves you with a cable to deal with. Next in line, controlled trojans/keyloggers are your next best weapon :P.

correct me if im wrong.

symnzXx 2004-09-15 07:45 PM

first off, lemme just say that he's not my dad. step-dad, if that's what you wanna call him. whatever.. i don't care.

second, there will be no installing boxes. im not talking about permanently doing something, just something that i could change real quick to get internet. if there's nothing else i can do then i'll just stop trying altogether.

Demosthenes 2004-09-15 07:47 PM

You could always directly connect to your modem...?

kockblocker1 2004-09-15 07:53 PM

Just reset it then. Default settings should be good enough.

Resetting

Resetting this box is dead easy, all you have to remember is - Be Patient! When reset using the little blue button, make sure the test LED really is on solidly. The LED will come on seemingly solidly after starting, but keep the reset button pressed for quite a few more seconds. The LED blinks off, then stays off for about 10 or 15 seconds, before blinking rapidly and finally glowing solidly. If you don't get this, activity you have not reset the router. After you reset in this manner you are completely back to factory defaults.

Or just find the book and follow the instructions.


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