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Acer 2004-05-17 12:22 PM

Berg execution was a FAKE?
 
I was reading this and it made me wonder....

http://genmay.com/showthread.php?t=354134

Ganga 2004-05-17 12:45 PM

Interesting.

Sovereign 2004-05-17 12:50 PM

Read about this a while ago. Still very interesting.

Titusfied 2004-05-17 01:01 PM

Well, there are some interesting points made in there, but I don't know exactly what he is getting at.

First, the Russian accents. What is he implying here, that Russians were the cause of this decapitation? What sense does that make?

I was, however, thoroughly interested in the decapitation article that shows evidence that he was already dead. I too would think that he would speak up, being as he knows Arabic, when he heard what was being said.

I was actually thinking to myself, "Man, if that was me, I would be like, 'Help me... please..' while this whole thing was going on." Then I thought, "Well, I wouldn't have understood what they were saying anyway, so of course not trying to speak out would be in my best interest."

But now that I know he spoke the language, holy shit, I would definitely be going nuts as they wer speaking, because I would have known death was imminent anyway.

Air Jordans and gold rings just made me laugh when I read it though.

Good read though. I went through about 6 pages of replies, then the server went busy. Good thing too, because I really didn't feel like reading 74 pages of replies...

D3V 2004-05-17 01:06 PM

If you listen to it he does scream and yell when he's being pushed over and cut into.

I doubt that its fake, even though the timing of it right after our inncident with the torchering of the immates was right on cue.

And Air jordans aren't just popular in america... they aren't even made there. I'm guessing they're stolen, or just bought from somewhere..

but the rings, the walls n shit, its all freaky.

You gotta think, if that video IS real, then how'd it get on the Internet? I doubt that those terrorists are going to spend their sweet ass money on digital camcorders , computer, and internet access.... oh well,

Tyrannicide 2004-05-17 01:19 PM

That guy makes a lot of good points leading to fake.

It is hard to judge and the Americans wont agree that it was fake, even if they now it is since it would bring attention back to them. (no offence)

kaos 2004-05-17 01:50 PM

It is fake you nubs, If you look closely right before they masked guys stop talking and push him over he yells but in the movie he isnt doing shit.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-17 02:00 PM

Thanx Mr. Obvious.

I figured it had the be a fake the first time outa many times i watched it.

D3V 2004-05-17 02:21 PM

He yells cuz he sticks a fucking knife into his throat you idiot.

Thanatos 2004-05-17 02:24 PM

Wow.. the US government fools the people again. They rule!

D3V 2004-05-17 02:38 PM

You would think they wouldn't kill an american who speaks arabic and has a beard.....

Penny_Bags 2004-05-17 02:59 PM

In my conspiratorial opinion, this was all planned out by the U.S. government in order to take the heat off of the U.S. and the torture issue. As if to say, "Well, they are terrible people, we are justified." ggpwnbai

Tyrannicide 2004-05-17 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny_Bags
In my conspiratorial opinion, this was all planned out by the U.S. government in order to take the heat off of the U.S. and the torture issue. As if to say, "Well, they are terrible people, we are justified." ggpwnbai

exactly.

So D3v, stfu.

Adrenachrome 2004-05-17 04:35 PM

I haven't seen enough evidence to accuse the US GOvernment of a coverup or conspiracy, all I've seen is enough to believe the story that came with the video is false.

than a bitch

Tyrannicide 2004-05-17 04:37 PM

WTF, u just pop outa nowheres dont u?

The evidence leans towards fake.

Titusfied 2004-05-17 06:10 PM

The evidence leads towards jack. The conspiracy theory leads towards it being fake, but everything else leads it to be real.

I'm going to watch it again and check it out more. If the U.S. wanted to cover its ass, we would have surely planted WMD's in Iraq, but we didn't. Who knows, that's why conspiracy theories are just that, theories, not facts.

badboy 2004-05-17 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
I doubt that its fake, even though the timing of it right after our inncident with the torchering of the immates was right on cue.

Ok, the inmates being torchered was put out into the media sometime in Janurary. You people just didn't give a shit tell there was pictures.

D3V 2004-05-18 12:56 PM

Ok, watch the tape, You can see the picture of the guy , his face is glazed over, there is no way the tape is fake, The family of Berg has already stated their brother/son is dead, and maybe the story of the terrorists killing him in retaliation probably is fake, (thats what the us made up if anything at all) but in no way is the video fake.

And there is nothign justified about killing innocent people, even if they are bad, and they hate us, it doesn't give us a right to kill them.
And tyrannan00b you didn't even say anything, so stfu plz.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-18 01:11 PM

I said, it appears to lean towards fake based on some evidence, and other evidence leans it towards real. It will take a long time to find out what really happened if anything in that video was alterd.

It is a horrible death, but no worse then all the civilian Iraqes who were bombed and such.

Sovereign 2004-05-18 01:51 PM

Are you retarded?? Im pretty sure instantly being killed by a bomb is better then having your throat slit and head cut off.


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