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FalleN 2004-02-18 03:17 PM

help with mf
 
what is the optimal mf count for the mephisto ? how many mf i need to have , to get good drops? what are yours suggestions ? and maby anybody knows the cube recept to clean socket ? is it passible at all ?

Demosthenes 2004-02-18 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FalleN
what is the optimal mf count for the mephisto ? how many mf i need to have , to get good drops? what are yours suggestions ? and maby anybody knows the cube recept to clean socket ? is it passible at all ?

Anywhere from 350-600 MF should work. I think my sorc had somehwere between 450-500 in .10 and about 650 in .09...that'll get you good drops, but you hav to be patient.

kockblocker1 2004-02-18 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FalleN
what is the optimal mf count for the mephisto ? how many mf i need to have , to get good drops? what are yours suggestions ? and maby anybody knows the cube recept to clean socket ? is it passible at all ?


1 Hel Rune + Scroll of Town Portal + Any Socketed Item = Unsocket that item

Vollstrecker 2004-02-18 03:41 PM

Your optimal MF is the most you can have without sacrificing run speed.

WetWired 2004-02-18 03:47 PM

Heh, wish I had known that. I had spent like an hour finding a good crossbow for my merc with a bunch of sockets, and then when I was moving arround things in my stash I accidentally socketed it wth a chipped topaz...

kockblocker1 2004-02-18 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWired
Heh, wish I had known that. I had spent like an hour finding a good crossbow for my merc with a bunch of sockets, and then when I was moving arround things in my stash I accidentally socketed it wth a chipped topaz...


I wouldn't waste a HEL rune on a crossbow unless it was a perf or near perf Buriza. So don't feel too bad.

HandOfHeaven 2004-02-18 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kockblocker1
I wouldn't waste a HEL rune on a crossbow unless it was a perf or near perf Buriza. So don't feel too bad.

Yeah, well you didn't accidentally socket your occy with a jewel that added to minimum damage and changed the lvl requirement to 58

kockblocker1 2004-02-18 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven
Yeah, well you didn't accidentally socket your occy with a jewel that added to minimum damage and changed the lvl requirement to 58


That's bad...

On second thought, don't lie. You were trying to make your melee sorc stronger wern't you. I hope it was a 40/15… lol.

HandOfHeaven 2004-02-18 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kockblocker1
That's bad...

On second thought, don't lie. You were trying to make your melee sorc stronger wern't you. I hope it was a 40/15… lol.

It's no lie. My bud gave me this +65 to defense and 3 to energy thing. I picked it up and as i was putting both in stash it got socketed.

Luhizot 2004-02-18 04:34 PM

For Mephisto runs use most MF u can afford, without drastically reduce your "power". U need to have good gear to kill Mephisto fast, so u can do more runs.

For Pindle i don't like a bunch of mf. i use something between 300-350. Increasing MF on Pindle gives u thousands of Rare items (Elites) which is not the point here.

Use the same strategy as Maphisto on Andariel, Diablo, Shenk, Baal, Pit Runs, etc ..

SlickFic04 2004-02-19 12:02 PM

"For Pindle i don't like a bunch of mf. i use something between 300-350. Increasing MF on Pindle gives u thousands of Rare items (Elites) which is not the point here."
-You sure about that? Cuz i got around 557mf and the only thing i've found on pindle is an eth bartucs so maybe u are right, i just dont see how the lest mf for pindle the better drops.

Vollstrecker 2004-02-19 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Luhizot
For Pindle i don't like a bunch of mf.

Suggesting someone to lower their MF is like asking a football player to go play without his pads, if they're trying to find set/uniques.

For socketed items, that's fine.

Vince 2004-02-19 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWired
Heh, wish I had known that. I had spent like an hour finding a good crossbow for my merc with a bunch of sockets, and then when I was moving arround things in my stash I accidentally socketed it wth a chipped topaz...

mercs can't use crossbows anyway..
unless that was changed in 1.10

WetWired 2004-02-19 03:43 PM

Actually, I meant a normal bow, but for some reason said crossbow. :weird:

Luhizot 2004-02-19 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vollstrecker
Suggesting someone to lower their MF is like asking a football player to go play without his pads, if they're trying to find set/uniques.

For socketed items, that's fine.

For socketed items u should use Zero mf. 600+ mf is useless when u intend to do Pindle Runz. 300-350 if optimal mf for killing Pindle.

Put a lot of mf and ull get 2-3 rares per run.

Vollstrecker 2004-02-19 04:29 PM

I get roughly the same results with 326% as I do with 458%. The whole "magic #'s" is BS and there WAS a time when it did matter, but that bug was patched.

RainWind 2004-02-20 11:06 PM

Hmm, as far as I can tell MF doesn't even matter anymore. I have a sorc with MF around 550 or so, and my hammerdin with a whole 45 mf finds just as much stuff. Seems to me that MF is pretty much useless now.

Vollstrecker 2004-02-20 11:19 PM

Believe me, it still matters. Try your Hammerdin on 50 Meph runs and record EVERY item that drops. Then do the same thing with your sorc. That will tell you for sure. In fact, we've done this in a previous thread, found here.

zagggon 2004-02-21 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WetWired
Heh, wish I had known that. I had spent like an hour finding a good crossbow for my merc with a bunch of sockets, and then when I was moving arround things in my stash I accidentally socketed it wth a chipped topaz...

Well are you really going to waste a hell rune on a crossbow that has a chipped topaz in it? :eek:

RainWind 2004-02-21 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vollstrecker
Believe me, it still matters. Try your Hammerdin on 50 Meph runs and record EVERY item that drops. Then do the same thing with your sorc. That will tell you for sure. In fact, we've done this in a previous thread, found here.

I did about 100 andy runs with each. My sorc found...a lot of gold and a wiz spike. My hammerdin found an soj, a shako, a gaze, and a bunch of shitty uniques.


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