Atheists... what would it take?
 

I wanna know, under what circumstances, if any, would you (atheists and what not) believe in God? Would it take a timely life saving miracle? Would it take the so-said God to come charging down from the clouds and slap you in the face? What would it take?

They want you to prove the existence of God.

That undermines the purpose of religion. However, the realization of the dream of prooving the existence of God would be a beatufiul thing.

Overly religious people that try to convert really annoy me, so don't bring it up.

There is no reason to convert others into different religions.
People will believe in something either because have evidence to support what they believe in, or they think that will benefit them if they do believe in such things.

If god himself came down, slapped me in the face, and granted me any 3 wishes i asked for i would believe.

Yea, id need some proof, actually, physical proof, before i made any assumptions or started believing in anything.

I believe in a supreme being, but not necisarily the christian God, and I don't believe in some perfect Jesus dude. I'm not atheist though, i'm agnostic.

Human beings have relied on religion to prove their existance.

Theres no god that "made adam a& eve and put them in the garden of eden" its all evolutionary

but then the question, where did the first living organism come from...where did it get the life?

Well, methane and ammonia and water vapor were in the atmosphere, methane is CH4 I believe, water vapor is H20, some how these things made some kind of premordial soup and formed life, 2 guys made an experiment like this in the 50s I believe, where they made the same kind of conditions in a lab as there were back then, with just water vapor, methane, and ammonia, and there were signs of living organisms after a few weeks, so that question is easily answered.

The harder question, where did the methane, ammonia, and water vapor come from? Probably formed with the earth after the big bang, but something must have triggered the big bang, which leads me to believe that there is a supreme being.

Miller and Urey did the experiment, based on Oparin's theory of primitive Earth's atmosphere. By charging electrodes through the air containing the aforementioned substances (hydrogen) and then having it pass through a condenser, organic molecules formed, which then, combined with macrosomethings, could have created the first forms of life.

The molecules in the air would have mostly been present while Earth was forming. The Earth was formed over a 400 million year period (estimated) while it was constantly erupting and colliding with meteorites to combine and form a larger mass.

Yeah, Miller and Urey, I need to remember that, biology final next thursday.

Here is a few thing that i find somehow funny.

Once you have evidence that something is true. Well, it isnt believing anymore. Believing is to accept something as true whithout any evidence, proof or whatever.

Sorry...no offense 2 ne1 whatsoever but i have a hard time blindly following things without some evidence of them...i mean why should i listen to this supposed god or even believe in him if there is no evidence. You can say it's a matter of faith...but if you want my faith you have to earn it i dont just go around having faith in things...

Fuck why do people keep making these threads? There was just a religion thread posted in Zelaron, a continuation of one posted before it.

Anyway to answer your question, if it came down here and slapped me in the face, I'd kick it's ass, then I'd believe that there is a God that could get it's ass kicked by a mortal.

Again, two thing that cannot go together. You want proof to have faith. Faith is basicly the same thing as belief. It's believing in something that does not rest on a logical proof or evidence. But yeah, i do know what ya mean. I would rather know a few thing then beleive in many.

God is just created by weak people who can't kick any ass while they're alive, so they created religion to threaten the people that pwn them with "hell."

It depends on the level of evidence. Evidence beyond all shadows of doubts (which no one can attain) or evidence beyond all reasonable doubts. When one can have the first one, he can claim that he has knowledge of certain things, but if one only has the latter, then he is only believing in certain thing.

God would have to come down, slap me in the face and say "hey, fucker, im real!" and then float into the heavens atop his flying donkey. Then I might consider religion, if I could garuntee I wasnt on drugs or asleep.

Religion is a set of rules, and a pre-science to explain things. Now we have the real thing. Religion is also a social mechanism. People who are religiously active live longer, and are more productive. There's a neural mechanism inside the brain (they did many studies on this, and it gave rise to an entirely new field of science based soley on human religion and the brain) that forces people to believe in a god, or in some unearthly being. Latent static fields, such as unique magnetic waves coming from things such as a household radio, or from the northern lights can "activate" this area in the brain, causing religious hallucinations. Example, there was a girl who was having demonic visions at night, and afraid to sleep in her room because she believed it was possessed or haunted by a poltergeist. Some quick studies were done, and the problem was rectified. What was causing it? Her radio. It sat by her bed, and the magnetic field it emmitted happened to be on the same frequency as her brain waves in that particular lobe region. Hence, religious hallucinations. They were able to attach a magnetic device to the head of someone who didn't believe in god, and give them a religious hallucination. It's all just a biological mechanism to keep people happy, and help them live better. The smarter people get however, the less they need it. Every human being is a machine, despite what you think. You act and respond accordingly to what you've previously experienced. Countless people will deny them being a machine, but it is quite true.