What is out there?
 

Personally I have never been out to Iraq, dunno about you guys... but what is really out there? How do we not know our government isnt controling what we see? People from North Korea are showed lies, and I bet they beleive it. I mean, we have so much trust into our gov(not all, but most) that it makes us blind and easy to be misguided. I honestly won't beleive any of the shit unless I see it, touch it, and hear it for my self.

I don't trust anyone so much that I would be easily misguided.

Yes, it's possible they could be just showing us a puppet show, but either way I really don't give a damn, they are the ones fighting the "war," not me.

Yes, dont care if your not fighting wars well... what if we are the "Iraq" type. The threat to other nations? What if we are killing people who haven't done anything? Let me give you a theory I came up with....

Back in the days, Rome would fight wars, tell their people the people they were fighting were doing bad things to get the support of the people. Nothing will boost nationality more than a war(revenge included). What if US planed 7/11... I mean the clues the people who did it left around was so obivious for such organized people. Our economy(spellcheck) was going down, Bush would be to blamed for it... so he probly we support it. Also, after it happend, many people signed up to join the arm service. Giving the US plenty of men to fight a war. Later its "Iraq" we focused on. Now, we go over there and take over kinda. Now we will help them whip their ass and run there gov, giving us pretty good access to the oil over there. So, what I am saying is how don't we know 7/11 was to get support and people to get into are services so we could get to iraq, the "oil"? We don't know, we don't see whats going on for real.

We pick our president? Hmm, something sounds funny about those votes didnt they? Maybe the gov made bush win, so we would think he is continuing his dad job against iraq. So, this would drift our thoughts away to the above theory... not saying this is true, but it does cross my mind.

We aren't doing anything, our government is.

I agree, that is why I want to get rich... I wan't to go out and find out the truth myself.

:rolleyes: You Have A Good Point We Really Don't Know What Is Going On In Iraq

Hey guys, lets go crash a plane into the Sears Tower to rally our people, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Anyways, no way we planned that. There are too many factors involved. Why did one crash? Why would we waste billions of dollars and two landmarks and cause our economy to drop to rally people? Is oil really THAT important?

I do beleive Bush attacked Iraq for the oil, but him planning September 11th is bullshit.

acer did you by any chance watch "mancurian candidate". btw i agree with your roman comparison. after all americans have always compared themselves to romans and tried to be like them, so heres whats in store for you yanks. bush will name himself dictator and will name a month after himself claiming he's jesus incarnated then he'll get shot to death by colin powell and after several coupes the country will be ruled by a guy named jimbo bush who will accept the jehovas witnesses and illegilise all other bringing forth more conflicts, racial disputes, etnich clensing, and rebellions bringing forth a new dark age filled with disease and war that will halve the population and halve it again. i can't wait

Acer, even though "sept" means 7, SEPTember isnt the 7th month.

September was the Seventh month in old Roman times. Julius Caesar added two months without changing the name of the rest.

Acer was talking about Rome a few sentences ago, so I guess he probably thought like the Romans for awhile. :p

Anyway, I wouldn't think that Bush planned such deeds.

WTF would they do that, this is just stupid..

Imagine the anarchy if something came out to us..

..North korea doesnt let anyone get on the internet, meaning, almost no access to anyone outside, we on the other hand, would know about anything around the world through internet.

Theres no way the government can filter what we send through aim, or through anything for that matter.

This is just a stupid arguement, it makes no sense, but i suppose it could be possible, but odds are 1 - 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to the 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000th power

The rich dont *find out* the truth they make it. ;)

shit posted twice sry.

Im not saying "BUSH" did it, but I wont say its not possible and he didnt for sure. If someone leaves america and comes back to tell me whats out there, it won't be any good. If the gov wants to keep is secret, I don't think they would let the people who've been out there go unsilenced.

Yes, and 7/11? Wasn't thinking like a roman, wasn't thinking at all it seems lol, my mistake.

Now people also say, 9/11(ahh lets get it right this time :P) made us stronger. Let me think about it, people trying to act full of pride to be noticed. Flags and stuff making money off of it(good for economic wise), people buying them to show their pride but yet its been what 2 years almost and no one shows their pride anymore. All we have left is horrible flying and companies going out of down and out. People would do crazy stuff to show their "pride" to get on TV(thats how I feel). I mean if you are really so proud then you wouldn't need 9/11 to have you do these things. Just taking adv of the moment it seems.

No, selling maybe 100 million flags for 79 cents each wouldnt be enough to boost the economy enough to have done it on purpose.

This is borderline impossible, if this unravled(sp) and was true, do you realize the amount of people that would DIE (bush, his administration, everyone in the government)

Familys of the 9/11 people would kill anything involved, FBI, CIA, all of that, a civil war possibly... a revolution

*mouth waters* revolution i like the sound of that. socialist factions fighting one another for control over the fight against the government. a communist revolution who will take bush and chronies out to the square and cut off their heads and genitals and parade them around.

what you dont know cant piss you off, thinking like that just makes it easier for them to do it and not get caught.

It does make sence, and actually a friend and I have been discussing this topic. Crazy Republicans.

I will have to disagree w/ the fact that our gov might be hiding shit i got to family members thast have came back from Iraq. They told me that most shit on the news is true. But maybe my family could be brain washed. Maybe Sadam Hussien is really a woman. Maybe, Osama bin Laden will flyout of my ass. It does not matter maybe. I will believe whatever is most believed by other ppl who r actually involved in it and not ppl who sit at home on there comp and do absolutly nothing bout this war or have any part in it.

shut up, if you were the one that was in iraq and you were told to keep you mouth shut about the truth, or your family would pay, wtf would you do then? you would tell your family what they told you. Sit at home and do nothing? I rather do that than risk my life for oil, that is the reason they are out there, to get more control over the oil.