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D3V 2007-07-02 05:44 PM

Presidential Vote '08
 
Who's going to get your vote?..


There's so many Numb-skulls to choose from, yet again!

I'd just like to get a feel of who everyone is going to be swinging for in the next prez election still like 20 months away......

edit: Well Damnit I can't edit IN a vote, and I can't delete this one either, so could a Mod/Admin/whatever toss up a poll for me and throw in these canidates....


Dem's
-Hilary Clinton
-Barack Obama
-John Edwards
-Bill Richardson
-Joe Biden

Repub's
-Rudy Giuliani
-John McCain
-Jim Gilmore
-Mike Huckabee
-Mitt Romney


-Thanks :)





Edit:

Upcoming Debates

'07
• July 23: South Carolina
• September 17: Florida
• November 15: Nevada
• December 17: Boston


'08 CNN Hosted..
• January 24: South Carolina
• January 30: California
• January 31: California

Dar_Win 2007-07-03 01:52 PM

If it's between all of these idiots? No one. I hate just about everyone of them.

Btw, you should've made a poll for this.

D3V 2007-07-03 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dar_Win
If it's between all of these idiots? No one. I hate just about everyone of them.

Btw, you should've made a poll for this.

Wow this post did stil show up, I posted it last night when I guess Zelaron's server reset, hold on let me fix it up.

Lenny 2007-07-03 02:11 PM

Presidential Vote '08
 
Poll added.

Thanatos 2007-07-03 02:44 PM

If I had that selection to choose from, Obama gets my vote.

D3V 2007-07-03 03:26 PM

Definately, most of the Republicans that are trying to represent are making themselves look like asses in the debates etc, because they can't back their own kind president, but then again they never offer a solution, where there are a few select Dems that actually step up.

For McCain, he just needs to give it up, his ass only made like 7 mil for the contributions in this past quarter, while Obama set a new record for 31mil, and Hilary rounded up 27mil with the help of her husband, either way money doesn't always equal votes.

I don't necessairily like John Edwards either, I sat down and watched a debate focused around Religion before, and he never really seemed to have a clear head on what he was talking about, and with Hilary it seemed to planned out, all in all Obama got most of my attention and as usual, made me turn against the other two big cats he's running against...

I just hope, I PRAY, we don't end up with another president like Bush that doesn't listen to the people, is independently profiting off our his own citizens and it's hapily about to get out of office unscaved and uncharged because he's been covering his tracks since day one, in all honesty we need to just impeach the stupid arrogant redneck fucker that hasn't taken responsibilty for any of his actions since 9/11, which is why I'm so excited to be seeing him go, once the election is here...

Dar_Win 2007-07-03 04:26 PM

How is he independently profiting off his of us?

What has he done as president that he needs to cover up?

Impeach him for what?

Texas isn't a "redneck" state.

What hasn't he taken responsibility for?

Demosthenes 2007-07-03 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar_Win
Impeach him for what?

- Pre-emptive war
- War Crimes
- Warantless NSA surveillance
- Violation of the War Powers Clause
- distortion of intelligence reports to gain support for war
- extradition for torture
- maltreatment of detainees

just to name a few

Quote:

Texas isn't a "redneck" state.
LIES!

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For McCain, he just needs to give it up
Actually, if I could vote McCain may have a shot at getting mine. From what I know right now, he would be my #2 or 3.

D3V 2007-07-03 04:54 PM

Basically MJ summed it up, there are many, MANY other speculations against him, and only a few that've actually been brought up by congress, etc.

My only problem with McCain, is that he tries to make everyone happy, too much, that and he brings up the fact he was a detainee about 5-6 times during EVERY SPEECH. We get it old man.

Dar_Win 2007-07-03 05:01 PM

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Warantless NSA surveillance
If you aren't doing anything wrong, who cares? I'm one of those people anal about my rights never being violated no matter what, and I don't care. It's helping to protect me.

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distortion of intelligence reports to gain support for war
That was the intelligence they had at the time.
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- extradition for torture
- maltreatment of detainees
Look what they're doing to our soldiers. Torturing them, and then beheading them. I think our people who are captured are treated far worse then theirs.

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LIES
Truth. I've been to a lot of places there.

Dar_Win 2007-07-03 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
For McCain, he just needs to give it up

If I decide to vote, I would vote for second to Rudy.

D3V 2007-07-03 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar_Win
If you aren't doing anything wrong, who cares? I'm one of those people anal about my rights never being violated no matter what, and I don't care. It's helping to protect me.




Look what they're doing to our soldiers. Torturing them, and then beheading them. I think our people who are captured are treated far worse then theirs.


Truth. I've been to a lot of places there.

Look Darwin, you're arguing the wrong points. Just because you aren't doing anything, doesn't give the right for the government to spy on you unknowingly, that's a VIOLATION of our constitution. It isn't helping keep us more safe, when they are using it for their own benefits. I mean seriously,.. what good has it brought other than what is going on in the white house?... Hmm?

You can't turn the argument around, and say well, oh well, THEY DID IT FIRST! It doesn't make it right. Just because somebody comes up to you, and robs you dry, does that give you the right to mug an old lady on your way home? No.

And Texas, is full of steers and queers, case closed, just look at Bob! But that isn't even the case here, I was more-so refferring to bush as being a redneck, and if you've ever, EVER listened to him talk, and told me that he wasn't a redneck, you're spewing shit directly out of your own mouth.

Just go read up a bit on oil profiting in the middleast, Cheney's good 'ole Haliburton is up in the BILLIONS in profit alone this year already, the same with Bush's families independent companies they hold stock share with the Saudi Arabians.. who also, attacked us during 9/11, But that's a whole different debate.

The president's approval rating and war rating are both under 30% now, if you want to be on the losing side, go ahead and stay there.

Demosthenes 2007-07-03 06:34 PM

Regardless of whether you think those are morally right or wrong, they are still ample grounds for impeachment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar_Win
Truth. I've been to a lot of places there.

I live there. I win.

Honestly, though, I'm not sure where all you've visited but from what I've seen this is a fairly backwards redneck state.

slaynish 2007-07-03 06:48 PM

Yeah, lol.

I was going to post something about how you live there. That was funny :P

And, I would vote for Obama. (Voted before I knew everyone else would vote for him)

I thought bush had some kind of ties with the oil companies, and was making cash off the gas prices rising..?

Dar_Win 2007-07-03 07:54 PM

Quote:

Just because somebody comes up to you, and robs you dry, does that give you the right to mug an old lady on your way home? No.
That's completely different. It's middle easterners that are attacking us, and it's middle easterners that are in these jails. It's not like we're holding Indians in these jails.

And if you're saying we're in Iraq for oil, why am I shelling out at least $3.00 a gallon at the pump?

Demosthenes 2007-07-03 07:58 PM

I have no problem with holding P.O.W.'s in jail as long as it's done humanely. Neither does the constitution, come to think of it.

Vollstrecker 2007-07-03 09:16 PM

I've only read on Obama so far, however his positions seem to be very, very sensible.

Also, impeaching Bush won't do a whole lot of good as it would just put Cheney in office. While he may be less of an idiot, I don't imagine the status quo would significantly change.

Demosthenes 2007-07-03 09:55 PM

I don't mean to advocate actually impeaching Bush, I just meant they have more than enough to do so if they wanted.

khwiii 2007-07-04 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar_Win
That's completely different. It's middle easterners that are attacking us, and it's middle easterners that are in these jails. It's not like we're holding Indians in these jails.

Wow. It is not 'middle easterners' that are attacking us, it's radical extremest Muslims. I don't see you detaining all the extremist Christians. They've killed their fair share of Americans.

BTW... if 90% of the hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, how come we didn't go there?

KagomJack 2007-07-04 11:42 AM

OPEC is why you're shelling out $3 a gallon.


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