Religion has been defeated
 

Congrats atheists, we can bask in glory as science has told those religious fuckers to go die in a well.


FACT, homosexuality is genetic.

FACT, god created all humans equal.

FACT, god condemns homosexuality to eternal torture and destruction

FACT, homosexuality is "wrong"

PARADOX, if homosexuality is genetic, then god purposely created humans gay.

QUESTION, If the above statement is true, then god is either one of the following.

1. A lying piece of garbage, that's malevolent enough to torture his own creations he loves so much.

OR

2. The bible is a load of bullshit.


take your pick religious fags, you can't bullshit your way out of this one.

Wow, if anyone else had posted this, I would have given this thread my full attention. Alas.

This just in, Atheism is a religion too.

More at 11.

How do you figure?

Its the belief that man is > god.. or, more-so that.. a hospital should be built, rather then a church. Atheism is the belief that if something is going to happen, man will make it happen. Agnostic, is the religion of believing that religion doesn't exist.

Atheism is merely the dismissal of supernatural claims. Telling an atheist that man is greater than god is like telling a sane person that man is greater than a three-headed goat-boy. It's essentially meaningless.

A religion has some very particular qualities that atheism lacks. I don't think it can be said that atheism is a religion.

Atheism does not necessarily preclude aliens, three-headed goat-boys, unicorns, celestial teapots, or fairies. All of these creatures can hypothetically "make things happen." But in practice, I suppose you're correct.

I'm pretty sure everyone believes religion exists.

I love you.

ITT: Kyeruu makes himself look stupid, Kazilla decides to follow suit, Desmethones brings rationality to the table but it falls on mostly deaf ears.

and KA is still KA, Zelaron will live to see another day.

But it's true, what i said is not a lie : (

What you said was probably one of the dumbest arguments I've seen made from that side, and I'm basically on the same side as you. You just look like a moron. Gj bro.

Cool story, bro.

I don't understand anything you said Kyeruu, try and elaborate? You absolutely contradicted yourself almost every line, it really makes no sense.

Tell that to Muslim extremists... or Christian extremists...

[Or even the athiest extremists, since it doesn't make sense.

Yeah, sorry about the random rage.

I'll fix it up.

What basically i said is. Anyone who's read the bible, has basic knowledge that it condemns the act of homosexuality, in many of it's verses.

Scientifically it has been recently proven, that although there is no "gay gene" there are heritage-wise genes, that cause more feminine outputs on men, or that simple show in the chromosomes that, homosexuality can be inherited from the woman.

Which brings up the controversial question.

If god dislikes/hates homosexuality, and commits no error, why did he create man with said "feminine" gene? or anything that could make a man seem homosexual?

the perfect example is something in the spanish term called "amanerado" which is slang to define a person who talks with a gayish like voice, and has a lot of feminine qualities, YET they dont' do it on purpose, it's purely genetic, in forms of behavior and imitation.

Which makes me asks, that if the above statements are true.

Then god is either:

1. Not real, the bible lied.

2. A malevolent selfish being, which the bible says is not true. Which goes back to the first statement.

The problem is that you're trying to use logic but you're dealing with completely illogical people. They'll just come up with some new irrational way to explain it like:

"The scientists are lying"

"If such a genes exist then people who have them must be descendants of the Sodomites"

"DNA is a lie"

Among other things. They're fucking insane by definition, and you're trying to convince them with logic. Which basically makes you an idiot.

And if you don't think the bible portrays God as being malevolent, you obviously haven't read the Old Testament. The Old Testament God is pretty much a raging asshole. Hell, the guy hates figs (and fags.)

Citations, please.

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction; jealous, and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

- Richard Dawkins

I've never seen the logic in arguing religion.
Everyone believes something different, and in the end, they're all just standing at different angles of the circle staring into the same thing: The fact that something has to justify the effed up world we live in and the individuals that make it that way.