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kyeruu 2010-08-05 08:46 AM

Why is animal cruelty wrong and illegal?
 
/discuss

No idiot arguments.

Demosthenes 2010-08-05 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kyeruu (Post 689664)
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No idiot arguments.

Because it is inherently repulsive to the vast majority of society.

!King_Amazon! 2010-08-05 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kyeruu (Post 689664)
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No idiot arguments.

For the same reason that raping a child will get you a harsher sentence than raping an adult. They are innocent.

Skurai 2010-08-05 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kyeruu (Post 689664)
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No idiot arguments.

For the same reason that

D3V 2010-08-05 11:12 AM

It's not entirely illegal, killing for sport is generally still acceptable in most areas (depending on the species of animal).

kyeruu 2010-09-05 05:57 PM

Something that is repulsive to many, does not constitute a proper reason for something to be legal.

Example: if by some reason, the vast majority of society considered "pedophilia" perfectly fine, all jailed inmates for pedophilia would be set free as society's change of heart would dictate that it no longer should be illegal.

Under that logic, anything can and should be ilegal/legal. but the problem here is not that. It's the fact that most people say animal cruelty is "wrong" for biased reasons, such as.


"the animal suffers" "that's a life" etc etc.

Whereas other actions cause human suffering, are fine because they have "actions that provide benefits in the long run" To which i answer.

If you steal from a man, to save your family. Regardless of your intentions, you stole, and you are a thief, and should be punished accordingly.

Therefor, it doesn't matter why you killed the animal, you still killed it, but why is killing/abusing an animal "wrong"

When crops are gathered, the machines completely destroy the poor animals trying to eat the crops.

When animals are raised, they're treated like shit, because they're going to die anyways. And in the end.

They are still killed.

It doesn't matter that you killed an animal to survive, you still, murdered said animal.
why won't you get punished accordingly? Because then the law would crumble, but that same argument is the reason animal cruelty is illegal and "wrong"

Which constitutes as "hypocrisy" or a paradox, but a paradox would be more c omplicated.

Kazilla 2010-09-05 06:36 PM

I got lost somewhere around, "Something that is repulsive..."

It is wrong because they can't defend themselves in most cases. Even if they could, they likely don't have the chance to. Human's can defend themselves in some cases, so I guess that null's my previous point. Maybe because it is inhumain..? Killing isn't a humain trait..

kyeruu 2010-09-05 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazilla (Post 690553)
I got lost somewhere around, "Something that is repulsive..."

It is wrong because they can't defend themselves in most cases. Even if they could, they likely don't have the chance to. Human's can defend themselves in some cases, so I guess that null's my previous point. Maybe because it is inhumain..? Killing isn't a humain trait..

killing IS a humain trait.

Why?

Simple, in the past, before all this animal cruelty existed.

Humans killed, to survive. Does that make us less humans than we are now?

No we are still the same animals.

We are animals with free will and a conscious mind of self.

Doesn't make us any different. Other than enhanced intelligence.

Skurai 2010-09-05 09:11 PM

Killing an animal to eat/wear it to survive = instinct
Killing it because your a dicknigger = your a dicknigger
That's why your last post in invalid.

Animals kill each other to prove that they are the strongest in their tribe (in other words, if we kill a dog to prove we're the strongest dog.... wat) or to eat it. If we kill it because, then we're a dicknigger.

Wed-G 2010-09-05 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skurai (Post 690563)
killing it because your a dicknigger = your a dicknigger

rofl.

kyeruu 2010-09-05 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 690563)
Killing an animal to eat/wear it to survive = instinct
Killing it because your a dicknigger = your a dicknigger
That's why your last post in invalid.

Animals kill each other to prove that they are the strongest in their tribe (in other words, if we kill a dog to prove we're the strongest dog.... wat) or to eat it. If we kill it because, then we're a dicknigger.

No

Equation: X~Y=Xy

Y being insignificant to the result.

Why?

killing an animal for a reason=reason is invalid.

Killing an animal, because you are=invalid. it's subjective.

I said.

killing an animal because you want too= still makes you a murderer.


killing becuase you are a "whatever"=is simply redundance.

hence, you misinterpreted skurai.

Skurai 2010-09-06 12:47 PM

So what you're saying is.....
This thread is pointless, because even you think hurting animals is wrong? Because that's what I just fucking read.

kyeruu 2010-09-13 10:16 PM

that is not what i'm saying you anime-fag wannabe troll.

READ properly before you respond.

Jesus christ.

Skurai 2010-09-14 10:30 PM

I don't even know what I should say back. There's two or three responses.


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