9/11 Anniversary
The one year anniversary is coming up soon and I was just wondering how much of a difference this made in your life and if you are satisfied with the current actions in the middle east...
also what are your thoughts of words of war swarm in the air???? + anythign else you would like to mention on the subject |
I think we should buy afghanistan then bomb it.
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I think the press needs to just leave 9/11 the FUCK ALONE!! There hasn't been one day, NOT ONE DAY since the attack that I haven't seen news footage of the burning towers. Considering that the year-anniversary of the attack is coming up in less than two weeks, I believe it is high time for the press and the nation as a whole to let the event just die. It won't stop hurting until we LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
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StriderFury: yeah i got most of them crazy stuff at madville.
StriderFury: right now theres a lot of news on there about how bush shouldnt attack iraq. StriderFury: but he can do whatever he wants i dont care JohnnyTAE: oh yeah JohnnyTAE: did you see my response? StriderFury: ? StriderFury: for which one? JohnnyTAE: to should america attack iran StriderFury: it is true, StriderFury: that bush only wants ratings. JohnnyTAE: it's bushes job to do what the people want JohnnyTAE: and he is doing an ok job JohnnyTAE: if that makes his ratings go up then so be it StriderFury: *correction its the ppls job to do what bush wants, not the other way around. JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: America isn't that bad man StriderFury: and he is doing a TERRIBLE job, ask any americams/ StriderFury: *americans JohnnyTAE: I am American StriderFury: i know you like in utah. StriderFury: Why, of course the people don't want war...but after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along. Whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to StriderFury: something to think about. JohnnyTAE: remember vietnam JohnnyTAE: America pulled out of it because of the people JohnnyTAE: the people are the country JohnnyTAE: not there leaders JohnnyTAE: leaders change a million times JohnnyTAE: but the people continue on StriderFury: they were losing anyways. and there was no point in it. StriderFury: yes i agree. JohnnyTAE: so bush knows JohnnyTAE: that JohnnyTAE: he needs to please the people JohnnyTAE: thats why he makes a fool of himself in public all the time StriderFury: but how many dedecated men will have to die in the iraq war before bush figures out that? JohnnyTAE: trying to keep us happy StriderFury: there is simply no reasons to attack iraq. JohnnyTAE: how many innocents shall die if we do not step in StriderFury: only 20 percent of the population agrees on attacking. JohnnyTAE: all it takes is a bad day from sadam to change his mind JohnnyTAE: and kill people StriderFury: yes, sadam is evil, no doubt. StriderFury: but. StriderFury: the war is abolutely unessary. JohnnyTAE: the war is inevitable StriderFury: is like saying attack china cause the are communist and the have weapons of mass destructions. JohnnyTAE: America shall goto war with a middle eastern power JohnnyTAE: no matter what JohnnyTAE: it's like saying kill hitler because of what he has done to people JohnnyTAE: not like what you said StriderFury: i agree with that, StriderFury: that sadam should be put to an end, StriderFury: but, StriderFury: right now is simply not the time. JohnnyTAE: War is the only, now JohnnyTAE: only way now JohnnyTAE: * StriderFury: sadam posts no threat to the united states of america. JohnnyTAE: Sadam posseses a threat to any person that does not worship him StriderFury: because they know that if the piss of the states, StriderFury: they would get it. JohnnyTAE: yeah but thats where we get into terroism JohnnyTAE: war actions without someone to blame it on JohnnyTAE: there is reports that sadam helped fund the 9/11 terrorist StriderFury: and you think the president of america cannot manipulate his own media source? StriderFury: what i think its going to happen is, StriderFury: if the states attack, StriderFury: they have no allies. StriderFury: and without allies, even the strongest county in the world cannot win. StriderFury: vietnam all over agian. StriderFury: was the war nesseary? StriderFury: how many men died before the ppl figure out the vietnam war was unessary? JohnnyTAE: Vietnam was different and I agree it was wrong JohnnyTAE: and war over Ideals and not human rights is wrong JohnnyTAE: but Iran is different JohnnyTAE: I agree though StriderFury: *iraq StriderFury: i think JohnnyTAE: hmm StriderFury: This invasion would be unconstitutional. It would be against international law. It would violate the Christian doctrine of "just war." It would further damage U.S. relations with its allies, relations that are already frayed by Bush's mindless unilateralism. It would wreak havoc in the Muslim world, where there's plenty of havoc already. It could shake the U.S. economy, which is tremblin JohnnyTAE: I think so too JohnnyTAE: thats what I was saying StriderFury: i wonder... JohnnyTAE: I agree the war would come at a great cost to everyone in the world StriderFury: if the states would drop a nuclear bomb... StriderFury: if they dont win JohnnyTAE: we wouldn't StriderFury: they could JohnnyTAE: unless someone did it to us first StriderFury: ? JohnnyTAE: or posed a great threat JohnnyTAE: someone* JohnnyTAE: you make America out to be some kind of tyranical evil villian StriderFury: they would drop an nuke reasons are StriderFury: they dont want to lose thousands of lives and money just to go home nothing. StriderFury: it would make the bush adminstation look bad. StriderFury: therefore less ratings for bush. JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: droping a nuke JohnnyTAE: is unacceptable StriderFury: which bush does not want. JohnnyTAE: world wide JohnnyTAE: no matter the cost no one wants another hiroshima StriderFury: making this war is unacceptabel world wide. JohnnyTAE: thats why the us is so strict in civilian warfare StriderFury: is in the UN laws. JohnnyTAE: the Un laws are being proken by Sadam every day StriderFury: The United States has thousands of nuclear weapons; Iraq doesn't have one yet, much less the means to deliver it. StriderFury: And even if Iraq obtained one nuclear weapon or two, would that present a "mortal" danger to the United States? Remember, the United States managed to survive for four decades against an enemy with thousands of nuclear weapons aimed at us. JohnnyTAE: Iraq kills innocents for no reason but to test another tool of terrorism StriderFury: right. StriderFury: but you cant destory all terrorsim. StriderFury: like raziel said, StriderFury: its like the war on drugs. StriderFury: if anyones got to change, is the US. StriderFury: that will prevent terrorst. JohnnyTAE: you don't see the big picture do you StriderFury: why do you think no one hates canada? StriderFury: or any other countries EXPECT america? JohnnyTAE: America is a land of freedom one seprate from the others we to what we want to making us one of the greatest countrys in the world making this country the country of the people and for hte people JohnnyTAE: we will not change our selfs to maintain others beliefs JohnnyTAE: we will press what we think is right JohnnyTAE: aslong as justice is served StriderFury: so are you saying any free countries will be attack by terrorist? JohnnyTAE: if america was no longer here because terrorism succeded StriderFury: thats roughly around 80 percent of teh worlds countries. JohnnyTAE: they would challenge britian and work there way down to canada JohnnyTAE: the only reason canada is not being threatened is because there are much bigger fish in the sea JohnnyTAE: do you realize what the terroist are saying? JohnnyTAE: just by letting women and childern govern there life StriderFury: but why are the terroist doing what they do? JohnnyTAE: it is treatable by death StriderFury: what is their over all perpose? JohnnyTAE: there is none JohnnyTAE: they have small ideals JohnnyTAE: like toppling ALL western countries JohnnyTAE: and letting the goodness of allah shine down JohnnyTAE: which means no school for women or a better life JohnnyTAE: a hiearchy of men JohnnyTAE: just like in the medievil days StriderFury: johnny, no offense but where do you get all this stuff? JohnnyTAE: like I said JohnnyTAE: I am very observant StriderFury: it sounds like someone just stole away you freedom think beyond the picture or something. JohnnyTAE: thats what America fights for StriderFury: no one is stupid enough to kill themseleves just for those things. JohnnyTAE: is for freedom of all people JohnnyTAE: Hah StriderFury: they want to live in peace jsut like you and i JohnnyTAE: tell that to the sucide terroist in the middle east StriderFury: they are no different under it all. StriderFury: thats becasue they are fighting for lands. JohnnyTAE: under it all they carry differnt believs StriderFury: lands taken over by other ppl. JohnnyTAE: that grudge against ours StriderFury: so they have to fight them back. JohnnyTAE: thats just in one country JohnnyTAE: Osama or the taliban never had a country StriderFury: imagen if someone comes along and steals a part of you land. JohnnyTAE: they just had exreme beliefs StriderFury: you would fight back. StriderFury: osama was hired. JohnnyTAE: by the us JohnnyTAE: I know StriderFury: they are not part of any countries. JohnnyTAE: to save his country from russia StriderFury: and the US teach them how to be terrosit? StriderFury: *. StriderFury: did you know that? JohnnyTAE: the us taught them how to save them self JohnnyTAE: now they are using it against us JohnnyTAE: Yeah StriderFury: which is terroisem. StriderFury: thats why StriderFury: i told zel early StriderFury: *post StriderFury: that the states should mind their own bussiness. JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: man JohnnyTAE: think of the world you would be living in if the states minded there own business JohnnyTAE: there would be no canada StriderFury: the US pissed a lot of ppl off. StriderFury: lol why not? JohnnyTAE: us minds its onw business during ww1 or ww2 StriderFury: canada is just a piece of ice, mostly, JohnnyTAE: the maps would be tottally differnt StriderFury: the rest are all plains. StriderFury: why do you wnat to take over canada? JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: I don't JohnnyTAE: I was saying StriderFury: no one would take it even if its ripe for the picking. JohnnyTAE: they would trust me StriderFury: it postes no threads. JohnnyTAE: people don't fear only threats JohnnyTAE: they feel a need to press there beliefs on others StriderFury: we are talking about terrorist here arent we? JohnnyTAE: we are talking about all of the middle eastern dilemas StriderFury: go visit (Link: www.madville.com)www.madville.com more often. StriderFury: they feed you better crap then what the media feeds ya. StriderFury: :D JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: I do not base my decisons on the media StriderFury: you know what JohnnyTAE: if thats what you think JohnnyTAE: sup? JohnnyTAE: we should post our discussion on zelaron StriderFury: that what the middle east would do if they toke over the world. StriderFury: WITH TERRORIST! StriderFury: lol. StriderFury: pretty much nothing i'll bet. JohnnyTAE: lol just like the taliban did nothing to afghanistan JohnnyTAE: > JohnnyTAE: ? JohnnyTAE: they ruined those people StriderFury: the states toke part in the destortion as much as the taliban. StriderFury: if they would only have gotten out of their after they did their job. JohnnyTAE: no way JohnnyTAE: thats bs JohnnyTAE: we didn't enfore this extreme laws on them StriderFury: everyone know StriderFury: that the taliban got piss cause of it. JohnnyTAE: man you are lost JohnnyTAE: lol StriderFury: they were grateful for helping StriderFury: but StriderFury: they cross over the line there for the taliban got pisse.d JohnnyTAE: what JohnnyTAE: how JohnnyTAE: could JohnnyTAE: they JohnnyTAE: doi JohnnyTAE: that? JohnnyTAE: it's like giving a baby soem candy JohnnyTAE: then taking it away JohnnyTAE: of course the baby JohnnyTAE: is gonna get pissed JohnnyTAE: but sometimes thats the way of life StriderFury: no matter StriderFury: i'm more concern for another StriderFury: terroist attacks/. StriderFury: weither who is more right or wrong then the other. JohnnyTAE: you haven't heard have you? StriderFury: ? JohnnyTAE: there are reports of top taliban officails that escaped afghanistan JohnnyTAE: being in Iraq StriderFury: everyone about that. JohnnyTAE: and plannign more attacks on the west StriderFury: they were also in pakistaon JohnnyTAE: planning* StriderFury: *pakistan JohnnyTAE: they were JohnnyTAE: but there all heading to iraq StriderFury: so why not attack the pakistans StriderFury: not all StriderFury: they are spread out around the globe. JohnnyTAE: you think the US is war happy don't you? JohnnyTAE: I was talking about those fleeing afghan StriderFury: kinda like gurilla warfare. StriderFury: what happens when the states run out of countries to attack? JohnnyTAE: you know you seem pretty found of the terrorist maybe you hsould join al queda JohnnyTAE: the states don't want war man StriderFury: lol johnny. JohnnyTAE: they want equal civil rights and humane treatment JohnnyTAE: not war StriderFury: i'm more thinking for the best of the US. JohnnyTAE: and the US us thinking for the best of the world StriderFury: yes, its not what the US (the ppl wants) JohnnyTAE: we are thinking on two differnt layouts StriderFury: but what BUSH wants. JohnnyTAE: it is not StriderFury: BUSh makes all the big calls. StriderFury: not everyone else. JohnnyTAE: the truth is JohnnyTAE: Bush don't make shit StriderFury: thats the duty of being a president. JohnnyTAE: he really hasn't done much JohnnyTAE: congress is the big wigs JohnnyTAE: bush points things out StriderFury: he knew about 9?11 JohnnyTAE: other people handle it StriderFury: */ JohnnyTAE: and if everyoen don't agree there is problems StriderFury: they were even running simulations. JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: conspiracy nut StriderFury: its leaking out. StriderFury: even russia amits warning the States. JohnnyTAE: how much would you belive someone if they said they were gonna fly a plane into your city JohnnyTAE: if your city had never been attacked? JohnnyTAE: it's like me saying StriderFury: with the enemies the states have i would. JohnnyTAE: Canada will be attacked by terrorist JohnnyTAE: man JohnnyTAE: your bullheaded :p JohnnyTAE: but thats a good thing StriderFury: canada hasnt done none though. JohnnyTAE: I prolly am too JohnnyTAE: Canada isn't very innocent either StriderFury: more innocent then the states i;ll bet. StriderFury: and they still have their freedom. StriderFury: and that isnt because of the US/ JohnnyTAE: it isn't but StriderFury: why do you want to attackt canada? where would you even find the ppl to do the jobs? JohnnyTAE: the fact they still exist today is a much to do because of the us StriderFury: execpt mental paitents. JohnnyTAE: I don't wanna attack canada JohnnyTAE: lol StriderFury: no one does. StriderFury: that whu JohnnyTAE: man StriderFury: hitler left it alone. JohnnyTAE: if there was no other western countries now you would be attacked JohnnyTAE: hitler never attacked it yet StriderFury: you REALLy believe that? JohnnyTAE: but his plan was killing all jews StriderFury: canada would have surrounder. JohnnyTAE: even the canadain ones JohnnyTAE: it don't matter StriderFury: and there would be no harm. StriderFury: hitler NEVER wanted to kill canadainS! JohnnyTAE: you surrender every person not fit to standard dies JohnnyTAE: not candaians JohnnyTAE: but colors JohnnyTAE: jews JohnnyTAE: and any other religon that was looked at badly\ JohnnyTAE: like gypsys JohnnyTAE: gothics JohnnyTAE: gangsters JohnnyTAE: hoodlums JohnnyTAE: all dead StriderFury: hitler started a war for total domination fo europe and perhaps the world. StriderFury: he only use *kill all the jews* policies to start the war. StriderFury: thats old news johnny. JohnnyTAE: yeah it is JohnnyTAE: but you seem to love to disagree JohnnyTAE: :D JohnnyTAE: I am gonna post this on zel JohnnyTAE: ok? StriderFury: because the majority of the ppl are stupid. JohnnyTAE: the entire world is stupid StriderFury: no. JohnnyTAE: lol StriderFury: to long to read. JohnnyTAE: why not? JohnnyTAE: it's koo StriderFury: and boring. JohnnyTAE: not for me StriderFury: wars will start. JohnnyTAE: it's ok StriderFury: zelaron wars that is! JohnnyTAE: cmon StriderFury: and ppl will be pissed. JohnnyTAE: I think it will make for good discussion StriderFury: i MIGHT get flamed. JohnnyTAE: don't worry about what they think JohnnyTAE: you said how you feel StriderFury: STRIDER LIKES LEASBIANS HAHAHA. JohnnyTAE: lol StriderFury: ok now you might post it. StriderFury: tell me when you're done. StriderFury: and the link. JohnnyTAE: k JohnnyTAE: I'll bleep useless stuff out StriderFury: no thats too long. StriderFury: gotta keep it fresh know what i'm saying? JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: not exactly StriderFury: hold i'll do it then. JohnnyTAE: nah StriderFury: cause you arent even doing it right now. JohnnyTAE: I got it man JohnnyTAE: I am JohnnyTAE: too StriderFury: i'll post the actually shit. JohnnyTAE: me 2 JohnnyTAE: just not our side convos StriderFury: and the remarks about leasbians JohnnyTAE: you want it in or out? StriderFury: IN. StriderFury: AND THIS> JohnnyTAE: lol JohnnyTAE: see your draggin it out it was fine before StriderFury: nahuh! you were taking FOREVER. StriderFury: i'll post it johny. StriderFury: seriously. JohnnyTAE: nah man JohnnyTAE: I gots it JohnnyTAE: under control JohnnyTAE: be patient StriderFury: damnit! StriderFury: here, i'll do it, jsut to see how long it takes. Session Close (StriderFury): Sun Sep 01 00:25:53 2002 |
damnit johnny no one is going to span the time to read that! :rolleyes:
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*mine and striders talk
about the situations don't mind the typos and this is just opinion so take it as it comes and read it seriously it is interesting... |
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i feel really insensitive not caring about it, but oh well.
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I think 'anniversary' is a completely inappropriate word.
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it is just your positive view of the word that makes it seem wrong but in my culture when someone dies we have a 1 year anniversary where everyone goes back to the grave to remember the person by mourning there loss...
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Can you say flooding??
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Oooo didn't think about that...
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Because I don't cowardly attack countries. :-X
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Dude, NGM was it really necessary to quote the whole damn thing?
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I did it too, and seriously, Striderfury toughts are, from my point of view far away more solid than JohnyTAE's one...I found serious knowledge lacks from Johny in several matters, starting from Hitler, ending in Afganistan, and passing by the whole middle orient...I keep considering him a reasonable guy, but i had never disagreed with him as I do now...
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