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Jamesadin 2002-10-16 01:58 PM

Do you Believe?
 
Do you believe in God? Reply with what you think.

Adrenachrome 2002-10-16 02:09 PM

i dont
cant really explain with a keyboard

but uhh
i cant make myself believe that theres
some powerful being watching over everything

WetWired 2002-10-16 02:23 PM

Does He not make His presence known in the world around us? Jesus has certainly made me aware of His presence in my life. But for the simplest argument of whether there is any god, the laws of physics state that order comes out of chaos only when external energy is introduced into a system--in other words, perhaps there was a "big bang", but even so, it was God that caused it and who willed all the order that exists into being.

DKWicked 2002-10-16 03:19 PM

thats a negative........for many reasons

JRwakebord 2002-10-16 03:20 PM

i dont

Jamesadin 2002-10-16 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by WetWired
Does He not make His presence known in the world around us? Jesus has certainly made me aware of His presence in my life. But for the simplest argument of whether there is any god, the laws of physics state that order comes out of chaos only when external energy is introduced into a system--in other words, perhaps there was a "big bang", but even so, it was God that caused it and who willed all the order that exists into being.
I totally agree..

Hades-Knight 2002-10-16 04:02 PM

since the begining of the human race humans have thought of a superior being, or a god to explaint heir presence in the universe, but all there is to know is too much for our little heads :)

Demosthenes 2002-10-16 09:28 PM

i dont...i will post my entire opinion on this thread later cuz i got a lot 2 say on this subject.

JohnnyTAE 2002-10-16 10:32 PM

you are all sacreligous :p, God why not I belive in grav and I never seen him before....

Raziel 2002-10-16 10:59 PM

I most certainly believe in God. I refuse to believe that the human race along with all other life on this planet was an accident.

Grav 2002-10-17 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyTAE
you are all sacreligous :p, God why not I belive in grav and I never seen him before....

SILENCE, HEATEN!

YOU SHALT NOT SPEAK VAINLY IN THE NAME OF YOUR LORD

Grav 2002-10-17 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Raziel
I most certainly believe in God. I refuse to believe that the human race along with all other life on this planet was an accident.

I believe in evolution over creation, unless one day we find out that there is no other intelligent life.. maybe we are a Beta Version :(

DKWicked 2002-10-17 10:56 AM

probably be closer to an alpha, really

Hades-Knight 2002-10-17 02:09 PM

WHat do you think? we come from monkeys or from Adan and Eve?

i think from monkeys

Demosthenes 2002-10-17 02:38 PM

what reason do we have to believe in god. The theory of evolution we have reasonable amount of evidence to back it up but what would lead you to believe in god? We have nearly no proof as to god exists. I dont mean to offend anyone but personally I believe that religion was made thousands of years ago buy people in power who needed a way to control the people they led. It got popular and spread and so did religion. As time passedreligions evolved and changed...that is why we have so many different religions.

You know how god claims he is the "only one". Then why is it when a christian man has a near death experience he will say something like I saw jesus christ, or I saw heave and hell and a hindu say I saw rama or I saw who my mother was about to be in the next life???

Strider Fury 2002-10-17 02:38 PM

i'll bet my ass that more than half of the people who voted for 'yes' are 'just incase', and i find that very sickening. and btw, james, your very own question is flawed. i dont believe in God; i choose to believe in myself.

Hades-Knight 2002-10-17 04:14 PM

i saw allah!!!!!!!!

Adrenachrome 2002-10-17 05:27 PM

Strider i agree 100% the whole concept in "God" contradicts itself all throughout the Holy Bible
yea i read it and still didnt believe a word

but i agree somewhat with WetWired
i do beleive in Jesus but not as the son of God
as a man who knew a great deal about medicine and other things.
And was misstook for A gods son.

THis is very hard to explain
But there could be another explaination for the Adam& Eve story

for the smart people around

Aliens......
What if Adam&Eve were put here by the human race (or whatever they called it) Because of the destruction of their own planet.
And given the beliefs that are in the bible in order to prevent the destruction of this world...

i would beleive that before a magical being or whatever that creates all and with heaven and hell and all that bullshit.
also there are way too many different religions for any one of them to be true.

hmm....

Demosthenes 2002-10-17 05:37 PM

i dont believe we were put here by a magical being. B/c if u think a/b it for a sec then where did that magical being come from. It wouldn't make sense. I think that the big bang was the creation of the universe but that story leaves behind a whole set of questions itself. Where and how did it get so dense...it doesn't make sense.

Adrenachrome 2002-10-17 05:46 PM

most of life doesnt make sense i think thats why people came up with religion
to explain things

no offense

but i think people who believe in a god are simple minded....

MiNi_MaX 2002-10-18 12:55 PM

I believe in myself, physics, chemistry and biology.... Gods are bullshit.

I think religion was build by a really smart guy to exploits peoples so they can give money, food and tell him their secrets...
And after another smart guy understood that and made another religion etc..

Adrenachrome 2002-10-18 02:01 PM

wow this guy came outta no where and posted 1 post and it was about god........

quikspy67 2002-10-18 02:17 PM

I belive in god

Strider Fury 2002-10-18 02:26 PM

lets face it; the world is too fucked up to be able to put all of your faith in believing in God. remember that guy faking the shit bout healing people and was caught? like i've said to Raziel before, I do not choose to believe in God, but I live each day with morals and rightously.

Silverjinx18 2002-10-18 02:30 PM

I believe in God...God is in every way possible y I'm hear right now, y I get up in the morning, and y I push so hard everyday to make my goals possible...God is y I still put hope into sep. 11, God helps me to believe everything will be better. It is his voice I hear everytime something is wrong because he tells me it will be ok...You can not see God,True, but you can feel him and for that we should be greatfull, also you can see his presious blessings sent to us. It doesn't kill you to go to church (and i'm not telling ppl they have to) but it may kill you not to...

MiNi_MaX 2002-10-18 02:40 PM

Adrenachrome: I agree that's not a great subject to enter a forum community ;P But that was the first thread I read in that forum.

Demosthenes 2002-10-18 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Silverjinx18
I believe in God...God is in every way possible y I'm hear right now, y I get up in the morning, and y I push so hard everyday to make my goals possible...God is y I still put hope into sep. 11, God helps me to believe everything will be better. It is his voice I hear everytime something is wrong because he tells me it will be ok...You can not see God,True, but you can feel him and for that we should be greatfull, also you can see his presious blessings sent to us. It doesn't kill you to go to church (and i'm not telling ppl they have to) but it may kill you not to...
why would u believe in god though. What proof do u have. Why do u think "god" put us here. I would believe if there was some proof but i cannot blindly follow everything and base all my decisions around a belief.

Xenn 2002-10-18 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by mjordan2nd


why would u believe in god though. What proof do u have. Why do u think "god" put us here. I would believe if there was some proof but i cannot blindly follow everything and base all my decisions around a belief.

Personal experience

Raziel 2002-10-18 04:47 PM

I believe in both creation and evolution. I don't believe man just appeared on Earth in the blink of an eye, I believe it was a gradual process. But what takes millions of years on Earth may only be a matter of seconds in God's perception.

Hades-Knight 2002-10-18 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Silverjinx18
It is his voice I hear everytime something is wrong because he tells me it will be ok.
stop smoking weed

tacoX 2002-10-18 05:40 PM

/me is a proud god believer

Xenn 2002-10-18 09:43 PM

What I don't like are those people who believe in God but not hell.. it's like their trying to set themselves up for everything to be perfect :rolleyes:

kaos 2002-10-18 09:59 PM

iam the opposite. i believe in chaos and that satan is real. and he will proudly make me one of his hellish soldiers of doom after i prove myself...either that or i just play too much d2...

Jamesadin 2002-10-18 10:27 PM

Much too much DII. It is quite the opposite actually.

Demosthenes 2002-10-18 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Xenn
What I don't like are those people who believe in God but not hell.. it's like their trying to set themselves up for everything to be perfect :rolleyes:

if ur saying it is right 2 believe in god then i think that it is also allright not 2 believe in satan. Afterall "god" is the image of perfection.

kaos 2002-10-18 10:41 PM

wat do u mean the opposite. you mean i dont play ENOUGH d2?

Adrenachrome 2002-10-19 12:13 AM

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Adrenachrome: I agree that's not a great subject to enter a forum community ;P But that was the first thread I read in that forum.
and the only one you have posted in....

Adrenachrome 2002-10-19 12:42 AM

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no offense

but i think people who believe in a god are simple minded....


VComegasin 2002-10-19 06:37 AM

I believe, you know why? Think about it, there is NO way everything just "BANG" and became alive, it's just impossible. The human body system is also very complicated, I don't think a small "evolution" can let a CELL became "HUMAN" anccestor! I believe in god, and I think that is something I can count on

Demosthenes 2002-10-19 07:53 AM

well if the whole world didn't just "BANG" and become alive then how did god just be there. He would've just "BANG" and been there.


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