Legal Marijuana, the time is now.
 

I think the time for Marijuana legalization/decriminalization is upon us, there have been many news stories lately, including that of California's govenor pushing to legalize marijuana and tax it to help their tax deficit. Could marijuana finally be pushed to the forefront of politics?


Rob Kampia of MPP on Glenn Beck 2/25/09

Attourney General Eric Holder says that now the DEA will not raid Medicinal compounds that contain Marijuana

Change.gov's #1 issue facing america

"legalization of Marijuana"
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Legalizing it ain't gonna do shit... people will still abuse it, just like Tylenol and Nyquil...

As far as the monetary aspects, I totally agree. I heard on a radio show (AM radio at work...) that Marijuana is a 14 billion dollar a year business... know what the next in line is? Vegetables at 8 billion... and that's ALL vegetables! Also, it'll increase the police efficiency, because they won't have to worry about marijuana raids, they could focus on domestic abuse and child endangerment situations.

And for the record, I have seen the change it causes in people. You can say all you want that it doesn't affect you, but it does. And if you say it's not addicting... seriously? Look yourself in the eye, in a mirror, and say that without laughing. Not addicting? Then why do you feel the need to make it into clothes, lotions, food, and drink! I have nothing against people who use it, all my brothers being users, 2 of which now have valid medical cards, but I can say that for you to deny that it affects you is absurd.

Also, people think legalizing it is going to automatically mean society is going to be reduced to lazy people sitting all day at home doing nothing and smoking pot. WRONG! Even if it is legal, your employer still has the final say on whether or not a positive THC reading is reason enough to fire you. If he has reason to believe you were doing it at work, or an accident occurs, and you test positive, you can't prove you didn't smoke that day, because the stuff stays in your system for 30 days or something like that.

Another thing callers to the radio station were worried about is the consistency of quality of the product. If you don't smoke it, don't worry about it! As for the people that do, for some ungodly reason, and in some ungodly way, they seem to be able to tell the difference between Blueberry Bubble and Blueberry Yum Yum... but I figure, that's the same way an auto enthusiast can look at an engine block and determine if it's Honda, Mitsubishi, or Nissan. Or the way a nerd can see a motherboard and tell if it's a Pentium chipset, AMD chipset, or whatever else differentiates motherboards. Plus, you kinda hafta know. If someone tries to sell you stress (Honda, Pentium I) and you are paying for God's Gift (Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, Pentium Core i7), I think you would know the difference. So let the comsumers worry about quality problems.

So, to paraphrase, and so you only have to read this last part instead of all that jibberish, I am against the use of it, but it ain't my life, it's yours. The sheer financial impact it would bestow us is definately worthy of some form of government regulation. The consumers can deal with quality issues. And Society will not collapse because of the legalization of an herb already being used/abused in circulation.

personally i don't really care if you smoke marijuana or not.

So long as you do your job, and leave me the fuck alone.

We're cool.

Almost my thoughts exactly, great post.

So, let me get this right...


We get a Black President. Marijuana is legal.
Never would've guessed...

If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.

so let me get this straight...

we get a Black president...
the states make Marijuana Legal...
didn't change my opinion at all, fanboy.

Yeah... the president doesn't have any say as far as ABC goes.. which is Alcoholic Beverage Control... in the way it should/needs to regulate it's product. It's all state managed. It follows the rules and regulations that the state sets. How is this relevant? Because this is the most likely form of regulation that marijuana will see. To many people it is considered the same as alcohol. Or porn. And as such, each state has it's own methods of controlling the distrubution and limits of consumption for each product.

Also, as I stated earlier, Marijuana is a 14 BILLION dollar a year industry. The state of California is in a 42 BILLION dollar deficit, yet we just got nailed with higher taxes. With simple cuts, and relocation of wasted funds, we could save 36 BILLION in 1 year. Guess what? That 14 BILLION all of a sudden looks pretty tempting... but of course California isn't going to make cuts, but that's a horse of a different color...

Yea, the legalization of marijuana is estimated to bring in over $1 billion in tax revenue for California alone. That's a fraction of their budget shortfall, but it'll still give some much-needed revenue. I wish Kentucky would legalize casinoes. It would bring some tax revenues back home that's being given to neighboring states. I'm sure those states pay lobbyists to lobby against it here.

I hate how they always throw in the opinions of some random Republican on a bible thumping rage.

So the contries become so Pathetically poor, it'll go against what half of it's time is spent to get rid of just for a good billion dollars?
All we have to do is stop using Gas, drink less soda, plant more Vegitables durring the summer and eat them when they're ready.
We could save money so much easier then people want to think....

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...liticalflipper


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-spur-economy/

All I have to say is, I live in the wrong fucking state.

You aren't the only one. Florida is in the top-5 State category out of the entire country that have harsher policies and more drug enforcement.

I'm Moving to Florida.
I'd kill, steal, and rape before doing drugs.
and after doing them.
and while doing them.
wait, doing drugs won't make a difference then...

I'm still moving, and disappointed in every living creater alive.

Your logic is horrible and your intelligence is lacking. I suggest you do some of your own research before acting like you know everything.

Here's a little writeup on Today's CNN homepage. It's about legalization of course.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ugs/index.html

[QUOTE=D3V;667266]I think the time for Marijuana legalization/decriminalization is upon us, there have been many news stories lately, including that of California's govenor pushing to legalize marijuana and tax it to help their tax deficit. Could marijuana finally be pushed to the forefront of politics

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I was just going to give you a warning, but this tips the balance. Enjoy your holiday.

That's only half true. See Gonzales v. Raich.

The case you posted does not change the fact of what i've already said.

You said that states control legality of a drug. Presented alone, this is misleading. It is very possible for a drug to be legal under state law and illegal under national law. In this sense, states do not fully control the legality of drugs.

Which is my point, if a state rules a drug legal, then it is legal in that state. The national law is a completely different venture, and the ways they are created/justified is by going off of state rulings, most of the time.

Now it sounds like you're just pulling shit out of your ass. Seriously.

States aren't sovereign entities. Just because state law legalizes something doesn't make it legal, especially not drugs. Drugs have been under federal control for over a 100 years, and the case I referred you to confirmed it. Considering that I literally gave you the case name explicating the law I can't understand how you can't get that.

Anyway, this is an open and shut case, I'm not arguing this anymore. Reference to the case is up there somewhere in one of my previous posts... this is honestly just like beating my head into a wall. Peace Zel, I'm out,

And this is where MJ left... :( thanks alot D3V.

You missed the point entirely, MJ.

If you would actually read my posts you would see that I am not, in fact, saying if states say something is legal then is must be legal. I know the Federal Law presides over everything and it is the final say in everything, hence the Supreme Court. You gave me the case, and that's fine, but it was straying away from the point. My point is that if one state can finally legalize marijuana, then other states will follow, and in turn the federal government will have to comply with the states or find some middle ground. All I am saying is that any progress is good progress, you just read too much into it. Get off your high horse.

The federal government does not have to bow to the state governments. The way that it works is you need the senators and representatives to effect change, but they work for the people, not the state. In fact, the federal government could choose to ramp up federal enforcement in states that refuse to dedicate their own resources to it.

And yet another pot thread WetWired post in. HMMMM.

I know this, but if the people want something bad enough it will happen, eventually. Which is my whole fucking point, you guys keep taking things too literally. My point is:

IF ONE STATE does it, the others will follow. And eventually the Federal government will have to follow, because if they aren't representing they will be removed.

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Awesome. Keep it coming America!

I will be glad once its legalised.

You will start using the product?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthu...taxadsKNBC.jpg

I want to stop being persecuted for something I do in my own house, in my own free time, that doesn't hurt the well-being of others. That'd be nice.

Yeah. Let's uh... post about it online!

Doesn't it hurt you, though?

No, smoking marijuana has no harmful effects other than being high and hungry. The smoke is somewhat of a negative effect on your lungs, but it is comparable to big city air, and not even anywhere nearly as bad as cigarettes.