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!King_Amazon! 2008-11-05 05:37 PM

How to GAIN weight?
 
I've been taking adderall for several months now, and my weight has dropped significantly. I'm 6'1". I was like 185-190 pounds when I began taking it, I believe, and I'm now at probably about 155 pounds. I have seen a decrease in the rate at which I'm losing weight, but I'm still losing it, and before long I'm going to be at unhealthy levels.

At first, I had a lot of trouble getting myself to eat, because it kills my appetite. I've managed to deal with that pretty well, so now I eat probably as much as I did before I started taking adderall. However, it seems as though I lose weight regardless of how much I eat, even if slower.

Naturally, I could just eat a tub of ice cream every day and gain weight, but I would prefer to gain weight in a way that isn't so unhealthy. Are there foods that will help me gain weight without clogging my arteries?

Grav 2008-11-05 05:42 PM

Try eating 5 or 6 smaller meals a day. This isn't as hard as it sounds, but it does take some dedication. Using a program/website like FitDay can help you calculate your maintenance level for calories. Lets say you burn 2000 calories during your day to day life: sleeping, digesting, doing homework, working out. You want to eat about 300-500 calories over maintenance a day to gain weight healthily. Start with 2300, check your progress in 2 weeks and kick it up if necessary.

PureRebel 2008-11-05 05:53 PM

taking adderall has probably messed with your metabolism if youre still losing weight, exercise more and switch to a high carb diet ( eating average size meals 2 1/2 - 3 hours apart) and if you dont have time to eat that often, have something like a high carb protein shake 1-2 times ( not too close to your other meals, as they can cause bad gas, and possibly stomach aches)

if you wanto put on weight, don't just eat more as it will most likely just get stored as fat.. the human body is stubborn, you need to give it a reason to wanto grow! so make sure you're doing a decent amount of exercise along with your diet.

Grav 2008-11-05 05:57 PM

Shoot for a 50% carbs / 25% protein / 25% fat diet. Which is to say 50% of your calories will be from carbs. Note that fat is "calorie dense" so you don't need to eat much of it to get to that 25%, just gobble some nuts.

PureRebel 2008-11-05 06:05 PM

oh and a quick bit of info for you k_a, although you wont really pay much attention to your calorie intake, you should just right down what you eat and at the end of the day just google a website that will tell you how many calories are in the food youre eating, or just look on the packaging if thats easier..

1g Protein = 4 calories
1g Carbs = 4 calories
1g Fat = 9 calories

since you're mainly aiming to put weight back on for now i'd stick to what grav said and stick to 50/25/25. you should never try and eliminate fats from your diet, as long as theyre from things like fish, red meats, eggs, and things like nuts and vegetables.

Willkillforfood 2008-11-05 09:17 PM

Can you test your body fat? You might actually get the benefit of being "ripped" out of this. Work out and take advantage of this gift bestowed upon you :P.

PureRebel 2008-11-05 10:22 PM

there are ways but i think its rather annoying, theres the pinch test ( no idea how it works) and so many others. just google them ;P

-Spector- 2008-11-06 11:26 AM

Protein shakes maybe?

D3V 2008-11-06 12:35 PM

You are wanting to gain weight?

The easist way to gain weight is to build muscle as muscle weight 5:1 outweighs fat, so start uping your protein intake and hit the gym.

Grav 2008-11-06 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 659158)
You are wanting to gain weight?

The easist way to gain weight is to build muscle as muscle weight 5:1 outweighs fat, so start uping your protein intake and hit the gym.


Whoa, careful there. Muscle is only about 20% more dense than fat, not nearly the 5x you claim.

Think about it, one pound of fat obviously does not take up five times as much volume as one pound of muscle. Overweight people would be HUGE.

Still, muscle is a lot healthier to have than fat. You can add between 0.5-1.0 pound of muscle to your body per week.

-Spector- 2008-11-06 01:38 PM

Muscle doesn't wiegh more than fat, Muscle is just more dense.

!King_Amazon! 2008-11-06 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Spector- (Post 659171)
Muscle doesn't wiegh more than fat, Muscle is just more dense.

OW.

Your logic hurts my brain.

D3V 2008-11-06 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Spector- (Post 659171)
Muscle doesn't wiegh more than fat, Muscle is just more dense.

Wrong, and yes my ratio was off, I honestly didn't know. I just know muscle is much higher than fat.

PureRebel 2008-11-06 04:24 PM

for a skinny person the best way to gain weight is to up your carb intake as well as protein, if you dont have the energy to burn when you workout you're only going to be wasting your muscle cells. and also, if you're planning to lift weights often to help you gain weight, DO NOT overtrain, most people train one body part till they cant even move it anymore.. 9/10 this is overtraining, and can lead to a decrease in muscle volume and it will take a hell of alot longer to recover.

Grav 2008-11-06 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 659172)
OW.

Your logic hurts my brain.

It depends on the context, I guess.

1 lb of fat weighs the same as 1 lb of muscle. In this sense, he's right. But this is being silly.

Xenn 2008-11-06 11:23 PM

I'm trying to gain 20 lbs. So far I've gained 8. Whey protein is good.

slaynish 2008-11-06 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 659109)
I've been taking adderall for several months now, and my weight has dropped significantly. I'm 6'1". I was like 185-190 pounds when I began taking it, I believe, and I'm now at probably about 155 pounds. I have seen a decrease in the rate at which I'm losing weight, but I'm still losing it, and before long I'm going to be at unhealthy levels.

At first, I had a lot of trouble getting myself to eat, because it kills my appetite. I've managed to deal with that pretty well, so now I eat probably as much as I did before I started taking adderall. However, it seems as though I lose weight regardless of how much I eat, even if slower.

Naturally, I could just eat a tub of ice cream every day and gain weight, but I would prefer to gain weight in a way that isn't so unhealthy. Are there foods that will help me gain weight without clogging my arteries?

You're taking it because you're prescribed to it right? If not then duh drop the adderall. If you are, then well, I'm sorry to say, but you wont get your appetite back if you keep taking an amphetamine whether its adderall or not. Try asking your doctor if there's something he's told other people that have your problem. Just eat more normally. The adderall isn't making you lose weight, it doesn't do that, it just makes you lose your appetite. I've taken amphetamines a little bit here and there, and they make you lose your appetite like no other. Just eat an amount you would eat before taking adderall. That's your problem.

!King_Amazon! 2008-11-07 12:08 AM

I said in my post that I eat as much now as I did before I started taking it.

slaynish 2008-11-07 12:14 AM

Oh my mistake, well the only thing you can do is just eat larger servings. I'm sure you know that 3500 calories are worth a pound. All that your situation leads to is that you've been eating far less than your caloric requirements. Maybe you could switch to a different medication? You could try buying some weight gainers at www.bodybuilding.com or www.massnutrition.com those are two of the cheaper websites I've been to. Are you smoking bud lately? That might be your best bet; get some hella munchies and just smash on some food. It'll never let you down.

PureRebel 2008-11-07 03:00 AM

hmm thats fucked up. the best way to grow is to just eat and eat and eat! just up your calorie intake like slaynish suggested

-Spector- 2008-11-07 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 659172)
OW.

Your logic hurts my brain.


How does my logic hurt your brain?


If you take 6 inches of fat, take 4 inches of muscle and put them on a scale, the muscle will weigh more.

Why? Muscle has more density as opposed to more mass.

Yes, if you take 1 pound of fat and 1 pound of muscle and weigh them both, they will both equal 1 pound.


Density: A measure of the amount of matter contained by a given volume.

Yay / Nay?

::Edit::

Here's a look at them both under a microscope:
http://zelaron.com/forum/picture.php...&pictureid=130

!King_Amazon! 2008-11-07 12:30 PM

Muscle DOES weigh more than fat. A cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat. Yes, muscle is more dense than fat, which is why muscle weighs more.

Obviously a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat. When trying to determine which weighs more, that's not relevant.

-Spector- 2008-11-07 12:30 PM

So then what exactly are we debating about here? lol

D3V 2008-11-07 12:30 PM

Quote:

When trying to determine which weighs more, that's not relevant.


fuck u ww

!King_Amazon! 2008-11-07 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Spector- (Post 659298)
So then what exactly are we debating about here? lol

You said muscle doesn't weigh more than fat, but it's denser than fat. That's like saying "pie doesn't taste better than cake, it's just more delicious than cake."

-Spector- 2008-12-10 09:35 AM

Alright K_A, fair enough.

I'm also jumping on the bandwagon for wanting to gain weight. Have you tried any of the suggested methods? If so which have worked?

Grav 2008-12-10 10:38 AM

You don't really want to gain "weight." You want to gain muscle. Work out.

talentedhamster 2008-12-10 12:35 PM

if you want to gain weight, all you need to do is intake more calories than you burn off. i'd say eat an extra 500 calories a day (if can be healthy foods if you want) na dhtat will put on weight in a healthy time span ( 1 - 2 pounds a week). all my sports med and nutrition classes go over this and say the same thing.

Asamin 2008-12-15 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 659109)
I've been taking adderall for several months now, and my weight has dropped significantly. I'm 6'1". I was like 185-190 pounds when I began taking it, I believe, and I'm now at probably about 155 pounds. I have seen a decrease in the rate at which I'm losing weight, but I'm still losing it, and before long I'm going to be at unhealthy levels.

At first, I had a lot of trouble getting myself to eat, because it kills my appetite. I've managed to deal with that pretty well, so now I eat probably as much as I did before I started taking adderall. However, it seems as though I lose weight regardless of how much I eat, even if slower.

Naturally, I could just eat a tub of ice cream every day and gain weight, but I would prefer to gain weight in a way that isn't so unhealthy. Are there foods that will help me gain weight without clogging my arteries?

Personally, I think you are and will be fine. I am currently 5' 11" and weigh 105 lbs. My dad is 6' and weighs 120 so 6' 1" and 155 is perfectly fine. I think that, as said, you metabolism is being messed with. Mine, as you can tell, works overtime so, most likely, the best way for you to gain weight would be one of the only two ways I can do it; grow or work out. And believe me, if your metabolism is like mine, you can't gain weight through eating. It just doesn't work. You burn it off to fast.

Chruser 2008-12-15 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaynish (Post 659216)
I'm sure you know that 3500 calories are worth a pound.


A pound is approximately equivalent to 9.7435 quadrillion calories.

D3V 2008-12-15 07:32 AM

Lol.

Just stop taking the adderall, problem solved. If you aren't going to, eat more.

*And speaking of which, I finally found an Adderall hookup, looks like i'll be taking some next semester for school. And if I cannot keep this hookup going i'm going to get some prescribed for sure.

!King_Amazon! 2008-12-15 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 662887)
Lol.

Just stop taking the adderall, problem solved. If you aren't going to, eat more.

*And speaking of which, I finally found an Adderall hookup, looks like i'll be taking some next semester for school. And if I cannot keep this hookup going i'm going to get some prescribed for sure.

I wont stop taking it unless that's the last resort I have. I've been working somewhat on eating more, specifically working on eating more carbs and protein and such. It's difficult, but my weight loss is slowing down to the point that I'm not worried about the immediate future.

Be careful on Adderall, it takes a good amount of willpower to not get addicted to it. You should understand fully ahead of time that when you first take it, it will work amazingly, but having it work amazingly every time forever is not going to happen, and chasing that same feeling will just get you addicted. The more you use Adderall, the less effective it will be at the same dose, and this happens really, really fast. The main way I've kept myself from becoming addicted is by convincing myself that taking more than I need, or taking it when I don't need it, is only going to make it stop working, which is entirely true. It's hard, but worth it to use it correctly. Even using it less often than I'm prescribed, the tolerance buildup is a bitch. Lemme know if you need any advice, I know a few tricks to fight off the tolerance buildup through vitamin supplementation.

-Spector- 2008-12-15 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 662887)
Lol.

Just stop taking the adderall, problem solved. If you aren't going to, eat more.

*And speaking of which, I finally found an Adderall hookup, looks like i'll be taking some next semester for school. And if I cannot keep this hookup going i'm going to get some prescribed for sure.


Dude just a for warning, do NOT get addicted to that shit. Speaking from experience, it works wonders but you will be so fucking addicted to it man I promise.

::Edit:: K_A actually beat me to the warning. Seriously this shit is crazy addictive and it definitely has a diminishing return effect. (Kinda like coke's DR effect, if you've ever tried it)

D3V 2008-12-15 02:08 PM

I definately will. I've been contemplating it for a while now actually, last year I had known a buddy of mine that was just starting on it and he tells me the immense effects from it are amazing, and it was instantly noticeable when he started it in school, his grades jumped and he told me that he started to become excited about being in school, which is something I wouldn't mind.

Also, the addictive part. I do have somewhat of an addictive personality, but I think taking this, as you have done, can be okay if moderated and only taken when needed. Like weed, I only do it on the weekends and hardly ever during the week, it's diminishing return is pretty bad as well and if smoked enough your tolerance will go through the roof, I have a point where I can get reaaaaaallyyy high off of a small amount, and it hasn't gone up, due to me cutting myself off.

We'll see though.

Sum Yung Guy 2008-12-19 10:08 AM

Smoke a bowl before every meal.

Grav 2008-12-19 10:09 AM

He's got a point.

Asamin 2008-12-20 11:38 AM

You have a point.

Grav 2008-12-20 12:02 PM

-1 point for Asamin


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