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I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-22 10:00 AM

Sephiroth vs Kuja(Trance)
 
Who do you think is better.... Sephiroth, or Kuja(Kuja includes his Trance mode)? Vote vote vote!

btw, dont ask me if i could add "Both" on the poll cuz i would certainly not do that. The reason for this is so that we can tell who likes Seph and who likes Kuja, but wut we DONT want to know is if you like both of them or not.

BlueCube 2002-07-22 10:11 AM

Hmm.. Kuja. That whole "you need a soul to Trance" thing worked out just fine for him...

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-22 10:22 AM

Here is Sephroth~
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/FF7Kingdom/seph23.jpg

and here is Kuja...
http://www.angelfire.com/anime/catKOF/images/kuja11.jpg (Trance)

i thought these pics would help u a lil on voting cuz some ppl go by the character's looks :p

Raziel 2002-07-23 10:22 AM

Looks have NOTHING to do with it. Sephiroth has a long sword, and when Kuja trances he can blow up planets. NO CONTEST.

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-23 10:24 AM

yea i like when he does Ultima... that was sweet

Raziel 2002-07-23 10:32 AM

I loved that Ultima was exclusive to Kuja. It made the both Kuja and the spell that much more badass.

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-23 10:34 AM

too bad the last boss after kuja was pathetic =(

Raziel 2002-07-23 10:51 AM

Yeah, I wasn't a huge Necron fan. I don't like the final bosses that just come out of nowhere. Like Zeromus from FF4, and Ultimecia from FF8.

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-23 11:02 AM

final bosses should have a reason.. and should look extremly big and baddass. necron looked cool but had no reason and was easy.. no in FFX the final boss is easy looks pathetic but has a reason... I went to see a final boss that is gigant... extremly hard... badass looking... and has a purpose to be the final boss.
you guys have any reccomendations for a game that qualifies?

Raziel 2002-07-23 11:17 AM

That's a tall order, dude. Try Legend of Dragoon. That might be what you're looking for.

WetWired 2002-07-23 11:18 AM

Have you tried Serious Sam yet?

Is a hundred story tall 6 armed giant put there to stop you from leaving Earth good enough?
--WetWired

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-23 11:39 AM

Legend of Dragoon is an amazing game, you should try that out SYG...
and Ultimecia actually had a reason there... Ultimecia didnt just POP out of nowhere at the end... if u have been paying attention to the game during the actual gameplay, you should have seen some scenes where Rinoa stands there( at the end of the second disc after the fight against Edea) Ultimecia uses Rinoa and after that she leaves her body and make her go unconcious, she thought Rinoa could be the sorceress she was looking for and she was right... so Ultimecia is the creator of all the sorceresses and make them bad... there was a reason for Ultimecia to be there in the game... she wasnt just a boss that no on knew about until the end of the game... seriously if you dont remember start the game over and beat it again, ull be surprised... to sum it up, Ultimecia is there for a reason, Necron isnt at all... we never even know even a bit about him during the gameplay except at the end, Sephiroth i have no clue cuz i didnt beat the game yet and sin and Tidus's dad... well i think there is a reason for them.

btw, Raziel i just borrowed FF7 from a friend(HLomegasin)... im starting the game right now! and THEN ill see who i think is a better villain... so im not quite sure yet. :)

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-23 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix
Legend of Dragoon is an amazing game, you should try that out SYG...
and Ultimecia actually had a reason there... Ultimecia didnt just POP out of nowhere at the end... if u have been paying attention to the game during the actual gameplay, you should have seen some scenes where Rinoa stands there( at the end of the second disc after the fight against Edea) Ultimecia uses Rinoa and after that she leaves her body and make her go unconcious, she thought Rinoa could be the sorceress she was looking for and she was right... so Ultimecia is the creator of all the sorceresses and make them bad... there was a reason for Ultimecia to be there in the game... she wasnt just a boss that no on knew about until the end of the game... seriously if you dont remember start the game over and beat it again, ull be surprised... to sum it up, Ultimecia is there for a reason, Necron isnt at all... we never even know even a bit about him during the gameplay except at the end, Sephiroth i have no clue cuz i didnt beat the game yet and sin and Tidus's dad... well i think there is a reason for them.

btw, Raziel i just borrowed FF7 from a friend(HLomegasin)... im starting the game right now! and THEN ill see who i think is a better villain... so im not quite sure yet. :)

sin isnt the last boss... i was referring to Yu Yevon

the little moogle sized boss that floats around and takes over the bodies of your Aeons

NonGayMan 2002-07-23 12:06 PM

I think Sephiroth was cooler looking and ALOT of people liked him as a favorite villian. I'm not sure if Sephiroth could beat Kuja though...

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-24 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sum Yung Guy

sin isnt the last boss... i was referring to Yu Yevon

the little moogle sized boss that floats around and takes over the bodies of your Aeons

he isnt the last boss.... yes Yu Yevon IS but the guy who takes the form of ur aeons isnt... Yu Yevon made those fake aeons he isnt the fake aeon himself.

The last boss really disappointed me... unless u do 9999 per character, he would just heal 9999 HP and when one of ur character dies... everyone has Auto-life on because the "Fayth" gave them or something and never dies.... so the battle could go on forever :( the battle wasnt very fun... but the summoned beast battle was fun cuz i luv fighting just an aeon vs an aeon... sin(Tidus's dad, not the armor sin.) was really easy... cuz all u needed was Anima and Magus Sisters and attack away. He was really pathetic for a boss...

Raziel 2002-07-24 10:12 AM

What I meant by Ultimecia coming out of nowhere is that she wasn't a very active villain. If you want to be technical, Zeromus had a good reason for being the last boss in FF4, but he didn't actually show up in the game until the very end, much like Ultimecia. I like active villains like Kefka and Kuja. The ones that keep fucking with you throughout the whole game.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-24 04:00 PM

o right, now i get wut u mean... lol in FF7 im just on my way to the second boss... i barely played yesterday so i think im gonna go play a bit.

Double Edged 2002-07-26 11:13 PM

Sephiroth would win course...cause Kuja is just a wussed out sephiroth complete with poetic rambling and eye liner

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-26 11:33 PM

nah kuja is example of looks can be deiciving... just cus sephiroth has cooler name and looks cooler doesnt mean hes more badass..... it would rock tho if kuja was a girl, that wouldve made him/her much more badass and less people would whine about kujas looks if kuja were girl

mightychicken 2002-07-27 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Double Edged
Sephiroth would win course...cause Kuja is just a wussed out sephiroth complete with poetic rambling and eye liner
i couldn't have put it better myself. Kuja is a fruitcake and would therefore lose. Sephiroth, on the other hand, was the first of the "bosses with feminine tone and streaky hair", so he was a fairly original creation, and his character had a much better explanation than kuja. Don't count kuja's ultima because it was just for cinematic effect.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-27 12:25 PM

yea, and sephiroth was EVIL until the end unlike Kuja, HE HAD A SOFT PART in his heart and becomes good before he dies... i think thats a lil pathetic villain... he becomes good... thats stupid.

Raziel 2002-07-29 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mightychicken


Sephiroth, on the other hand, was the first of the "bosses with feminine tone and streaky hair", so he was a fairly original creation

Wrong, boyo. Kefka was the first of the "androgynous" FF villains.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-30 07:20 PM

where is Kefka from again?

Sum Yung Guy 2002-07-30 07:24 PM

FF3 (us) FF6 (japan)

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-07-30 07:38 PM

o, hey i have that game.... but i havent played in so long.

Raziel 2002-08-02 01:34 AM

FF6 is genius. PURE GENIUS.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-08-02 06:16 PM

how about we stick wit the number 3, cuz 6 doesnt put it right... and FF3 is a pretty darn good game but i donno if i can compare any FF games from it.

Sum Yung Guy 2002-08-02 06:21 PM

FF3 was the first FF game I played.... its one of the games that got me into gaming... I used to goto my friends house and watch him play FF3 cus I didnt have an snes =P but then I got one and he let me borrow FF3 and I beat it...... then many years later they made the playstation versions and now I own almost every FF

Raziel 2002-08-03 03:30 AM

I call it FF6 because that's the name of the game. FF3 already exists, but it was never released in America.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-08-03 07:48 AM

FF3(or 6) is a SNES game and i wanted to play all the FF games, so i was searching through the net and i found an emulator for SNES and FF3, Chrono Trigger and stuff.

I started off of FF8... the FIRST FF game ive ever played. It was grade5 when i got into this whole FF thing and glad i did :)

Raziel 2002-08-03 01:37 PM

Aw God, FF8 was your first one? I'm sorry, dude. You own a Playstation don't you? Go buy Final Fantasy Chronicles. It's FF4 (FF2 American) and Chrono Trigger in the same package. FF4 has been COMPLETELY re-translated, and has new FMV sequences. Chrono Trigger has about 13 new animated cutscenes and A LOT of bonus material. It's definitely worth picking up.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-08-03 04:34 PM

i have PS2 and i was gonna buy FF7 and FF Chronicles cuz my dad said he would buy it for me instead of other games(he was buying a game for me) but i chose WC III instead cuz WCIII was out and I have FF8 on my computer so, yea. :)

VComegasin 2002-08-08 09:31 AM

Sephiroth All The Way~ Think about it, who will ever like Kuja? Believe it or not, the first time I saw him in the game, I thought he was girl...ROFL. The only thing I judge is that.....Sephiroth has a cool looking sword, and guess what? That is all I care, no sword, no deal. :)
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Kuja got a dragon? so what? Who doesn't have dragon? It ain't so special after all. The one who behold that "Bahamut" is that best...oh, ya~~King of Dragon :noid:

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-08-08 10:25 AM

ah yes, bahamut... and Garnet/Sarah/Dagger holds that edilon :)

BMS-IcE- 2002-08-19 01:03 PM

I think sephiroth would win after all he did kick my ass the first two times I fought him.
and isn't there a Kuja in FF7 also... I think he was that pig like summon I'm not sure been so long since I've played FF7 last.

Raziel 2002-08-19 03:23 PM

Pig summon? I believe you're thinking of Typoon.

And at least Omegasin is being honest about Sephiroth. Without that huge-ass sword, he's just another dude. Kuja would mop the floor with Sephiroth's face. A big sword can't do anything against a full on Tranced out Ultima! Boo-ya!

mightychicken 2002-08-19 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raziel


Wrong, boyo. Kefka was the first of the "androgynous" FF villains.

Kefka was like 50 pixels, how can he be feminine or masculine?

Raziel 2002-08-20 01:56 AM

Look at any of the character art. Look at the in-game battle art for him. Look at the CG intro in the FF Anthology version.

I)ark_Phoenix 2002-08-24 08:04 PM

as a result of this thread... i guess Sephiroth wins. Unless some people shows up and starts voting for Kuja~ then, we can get this thread going again.

Kuja`s #1 2003-05-21 08:12 PM

Puny mortals I bring a message of destruction. For those who question Kuja's might death awaits. Though Sephiroth is powerful his pathetic Supernova is no match for Kuja's Flare Star and Ultima. Bow before the destroyer of Terra, the Ultimate FF boss. KUJA!!!!!! MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


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