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Tynion 2008-06-20 10:29 AM

New to Zelaron
 
Hello.

My name is Chris Newton, and I am new to Zelaron. I was recruited by Yawgmoth, who is a member of my staff. Staff of what? The magazine that I am bringing to the Zelaron community.

Eye of the Vortex is a gaming magazine dedicated to .. well you - the Gamer.

I don't want this to come across as an advertisement, so I will leave it as that. That is the reason I am coming to the community.

For the last three years I have been a writer and editor for MagicDeckVortex.com. I also was the Lead Writer (editor-in-chief) for that website. I also played Magic for around 13 years, so as far as Magic goes, you could call me an expert, or someone who spent alot of money and time on something who has nothing to show for it except memories.

Anyways, I hope to get to know you guys.

Thanks for reading.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-20 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tynion (Post 641631)
Hello.

My name is Chris Newton, and I am new to Zelaron. I was recruited by Yawgmoth, who is a member of my staff. Staff of what? The magazine that I am bringing to the Zelaron community.

Eye of the Vortex is a gaming magazine dedicated to .. well you - the Gamer.

I don't want this to come across as an advertisement, so I will leave it as that. That is the reason I am coming to the community.

For the last three years I have been a writer and editor for MagicDeckVortex.com. I also was the Lead Writer (editor-in-chief) for that website. I also played Magic for around 13 years, so as far as Magic goes, you could call me an expert, or someone who spent alot of money and time on something who has nothing to show for it except memories.

Anyways, I hope to get to know you guys.

Thanks for reading.

Somehow I feel like one of those kids at one of those schools that gets a company to sponsor their sports teams and stuff in return for shoving the products on the kids.

Tynion 2008-06-20 11:03 AM

It was not supposed to come across like that. Would you kindly tell me how I should say 'Hi, I am joining your group, this is who I am and what I do', without being a complete jerk? If I did come off like that, then I apologize, that was not what I intended.

Wallow 2008-06-20 11:08 AM

Hello, welcome to Zelaron. Just a reminder, don't just write about gaming on this forum even if you do write a magazine about it. This forum is a "gaming forum," but there are people here that talk about other topics as well.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-20 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tynion (Post 641635)
It was not supposed to come across like that. Would you kindly tell me how I should say 'Hi, I am joining your group, this is who I am and what I do', without being a complete jerk? If I did come off like that, then I apologize, that was not what I intended.

You sounded like a business man, not like a cool dude that's joining the community. Either way, welcome to Zelaron!

Chruser 2008-06-20 11:32 AM

Welcome to Zelaron, Tynion! I looked at the magazine in question, which i found very... Lovecraftian at its core. It has more to do with fantasy and transhumanism than gaming, in a good way. I'm looking forward to the next issue.

Vault Dweller 2008-06-20 12:30 PM

Welcome to Zelaron.

Warning: You will be mocked. Everyone is. Please, do not take offense.

Thanatos 2008-06-20 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller (Post 641644)
Warning: You will be mocked. Everyone is. Please, do not take offense.

This man is wise.


And a douchebag.

jamer123 2008-06-20 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatos (Post 641651)
This man is wise.


And a douchebag.

He is. Ive been here for over three months or so [ i don't remember when i joined ] and ive been mock by everyone exept chruser he really nice to me. So welcome NOOB.

-Spector- 2008-06-20 02:00 PM

You joined in April of 2008, fag.

Just kidding, but welcome to Zelaron!

Vault Dweller 2008-06-20 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanatos (Post 641651)
This man is wise.


And a douchebag.

Don't you forget it, bitch.

Willkillforfood 2008-06-20 10:54 PM

Welcome! Keep Thanatos away from your signifigant other and/or legal aged daughter.

Vollstrecker 2008-06-20 11:22 PM

...and your booze stash, but welcome!

Wallow 2008-06-21 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 641654)
He is. Ive been here for over three months or so [ i don't remember when i joined ] and ive been mock by everyone exept chruser he really nice to me. So welcome NOOB.

Nop, I haven't mocked you. I don't mock many people much anyways.

Thanatos 2008-06-21 09:50 AM

Did I hear booze stash?

Yawgmoth 2008-06-21 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 641654)
He is. Ive been here for over three months or so [ i don't remember when i joined ] and ive been mock by everyone exept chruser he really nice to me. So welcome NOOB.

For me it seems somewhat illogical to begin your post with saying that everyone mocks you and ending with calling the newcomer "noob" in capital letters without much of a reason.

You should consider if your own behaviour is the reason for the mockery you experience, for to me it seems highly likely that that is the case. And if this is true (I have not investigated) those who react towards you are not to blame.

Anyway, welcome Chris - glad to have you here.

Coriander 2008-06-21 11:31 AM

Welcome Chris! ...... Fuck off jamer... >.> Anywho...

Vollstrecker 2008-06-22 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatos (Post 641755)
Did I hear booze stash?

Yeah, Chruser said it. He's giving away all his booze because he's moving out of Swedenistan or wherever. ;)

khwiii 2008-06-22 02:00 PM

If anyone else new had posted that shit, they'd been banned for spamming. Welcome.

Willkillforfood 2008-06-22 05:33 PM

welcome again. Khwii, welcome back. Your activity bar makes baby jesus cry.

Thanatos 2008-06-23 07:26 AM

Khwiii is too busy playing CoD4 24/7.

khwiii 2008-06-23 02:17 PM

Not quite 24/7. I gotta work and sleep. Other then that, yep, you are right. Last time I attempted Halo, it was bad.... very bad.

Chruser 2008-06-23 02:25 PM

Tynion: I don't think that shared forum thing will work
[...]
Tynion: How can I possibly send people to a forum where they will be basically verbally abused


There goes our prospective co-operation and the possibility of gaining a siginificantly larger member base than what we have today. Oh well.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-23 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 641961)
There goes our prospective co-operation and the possibility of gaining a siginificantly larger member base than what we have today. Oh well.

It's quite unfortunate that you went about it how you did.

Chruser 2008-06-23 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 641962)
It's quite unfortunate that you went about it how you did.

Oh yes, I apologize for adding rules to the forum (which were subsequently broken), thinking it would be safe for Tynion to post here.

khwiii 2008-06-23 04:52 PM

So basically, you were trying to pimp us out to him in exchange for new members? I think I'm not so keen on this idea.

jamer123 2008-06-23 06:00 PM

if that would happen to me i would sue

Chruser 2008-06-23 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khwiii (Post 641969)
So basically, you were trying to pimp us out to him in exchange for new members? I think I'm not so keen on this idea.

The idea was to let us host a sub-forum for him in which the visitors of his site could discuss his Lovecraftian and in my opinion rather nice gaming-inspired e-zine. We would get new members and activity from him, and his magazine would reach a wider audience (implying our current members, not to mention that we have a decent ranking in Google).

Anyway, that won't matter now. Time for plan B.

khwiii 2008-06-23 08:37 PM

Does it involve nukes and world domination? If so, count me out.

Willkillforfood 2008-06-23 08:37 PM

We weren't really rude to him at all, honestly. He must be extremely sensitive to say something of that sort. It wouldn't have worked anyways.

WetWired 2008-06-23 08:43 PM

You can still take advantage of the search rankings by linking to him from here, no?

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-23 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 641964)
Oh yes, I apologize for adding rules to the forum (which were subsequently broken), thinking it would be safe for Tynion to post here.

Well the problem is that you didn't feel like telling any of us (even the staff) about your plan, so naturally we were suspicious about this guy. He didn't come across as a "new member." He came across as a business partner, that none of us knew anything about. Had you adequately informed us, the outcome would likely be different.

I talked to you about this yesterday and you seemed to agree. Am I incorrect in assuming that?

Vollstrecker 2008-06-23 10:21 PM

Too bad, a gaming magazine could've added some interesting conversation.

Thanatos 2008-06-24 07:18 AM

GJ staff.

Chruser 2008-06-24 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 642004)
Well the problem is that you didn't feel like telling any of us (even the staff) about your plan, so naturally we were suspicious about this guy. He didn't come across as a "new member." He came across as a business partner, that none of us knew anything about. Had you adequately informed us, the outcome would likely be different.

So informing you that someone should be exempt from the rules is the way to do things around here now?

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-24 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 642054)
So informing you that someone should be exempt from the rules is the way to do things around here now?

Exempt from the rules?

Go back and read the thread. I think someone, be it you, Yawgmoth, or Tynion, is taking something too seriously. Hardly anyone even said anything that could be TAKEN as bad to the guy. I told you myself during our conversation recently that I was the one who initiated any sort of hostility toward him, but the reasons behind doing so are valid.

There was a severe lack of communication between you and the rest of the staff, or even the members for that matter. Yawgmoth was made a Supreme Mod without any of the rest of the staff being informed of such a thing until it happened, at least as far as I know. Then, this guy shows up claiming to know Yawgmoth and saying that he's going to bring his magazine to Zelaron, implying that something was once again going on behind the scenes that none of the members or staff, excluding you and Yawgmoth, knew about. As I told you, I thought you were going to let him advertise his magazine here in return for him paying for Zelaron, or something along those lines.

Either way, we've already talked about this in private. You, at the time, seemed to agree with me. I can supply the chat log that shows as much, if you would like.

Willkillforfood 2008-06-24 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 641964)
Oh yes, I apologize for adding rules to the forum (which were subsequently broken), thinking it would be safe for Tynion to post here.

It's too bad the fellow needs special rules in order to tolerate us common folk. If he doesn't have the nuts to handle the conversation here then he doesn't need to be talking here.

Yawgmoth 2008-06-24 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Willkillforfood (Post 642101)
It's too bad the fellow needs special rules in order to tolerate us common folk. If he doesn't have the nuts to handle the conversation here then he doesn't need to be talking here.

I think you miss the point. Tynion doesn't want his readers to find the forum and get "scared", thus likely not returning. New members, like me, don't know any of you and have no idea how to take what you write. They have it difficiult enough just being new here, if they get a negative welcome - they might decide that it is not worth it to stay.

Sure, this might serve as natural selection of sorts - but there are those who might have had potential. (Also, it lies in our interest to have a large reader-base.)

Willkillforfood 2008-06-24 03:30 PM

To my knowledge, no one but KA was the slightest bit rude to him. And KA wasn't even that rude (he was making a good point, and it was constructive criticism.) The only two of your members I know of are you and this fellow. Both of you are not the stereotypical, normal new member. Each of you is wanting to immediately seize the reigns of Zelaron. The only person that's gotten an overly rude response is most likely you. Your thread, entitled "An unfriendly reminder", was mistaken for something other than satire. You have to understand, until a history of sarcasm is established, you're going to be taken at face value. That's the case with pretty much everyone.

If he's using the treatment of you as a barometer for the forum's treatment of most people then he's seriously mistaken. Unless someone is a complete douche when they start posting then the replies are normally benign. However, there is a sort of social darwinism in place on these forums as you've commented on. In the longrun, normally the ones with the thickest hide remain.

khwiii 2008-06-24 03:34 PM

Maybe this is just my opinion, but this isn't much of a gaming forum anymore. When I come home from training and there are 17 threads with new posts, 2 of which are about games, I can't see how the gaming aspect is that big. I know I don't come back here for the gaming insight, as this place hasn't been on the cutting edge for games in.... well... along time.

I dunno, maybe people would've been more receptive, if it hadn't been shoved down their throats.


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