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D3V 2007-09-13 11:53 AM

E-Rep
 
I don't exactly know if VB has a built-in system, but a car forums I use has a button on each person's account name where you can give them E-Repuatation. It's somewhat cool, you can either Approve their comment or Disapprove of their comment and there are green Dots and Red dots that represent how much reputation they've received...


It's just a little add-on I feel would be pretty cool on here. We could also use a re-vamp of Smilies. I don't know if you guys have an access to a database of them where you can add in more, but it's always nice to have more of the little things, just something to throw out there.

Thanatos 2007-09-13 11:57 AM

I'm also part of a forum with a version of the E-rep thing. The problem with that one is, they're a bunch of immature fucks that disapprove of every single post so I have like +49 karma/-400 ... everyone on that board has a ratio like that. I mean, if we can find a way to where we can't abuse it then yeah that'd be tight.

D3V 2007-09-13 11:59 AM

The site I use has a limit, it's like 3 per day I believe, and 7 per week per individual user. Seems to work pretty nice, it's some-what hard to abuse. And i'm sure if somebody on here abuses it we could just report it to a Sup Mod/admin and they can handle it with temp bans, etc.

KagomJack 2007-09-13 12:21 PM

All the forums I'm on have one sans RPGSource.

D3V 2007-09-13 01:13 PM

I suppose I should've added a poll, if a mod could do so that'd be great. Just to see what everyone thinks in a more organized setup. I personally think it would be cool, just another little qwirk to help out the site a bit.

Vault Dweller 2007-09-13 02:26 PM

I can envision something like that being abused a bit, but therein lies the fun.

Lenny 2007-09-13 03:08 PM

E-Rep
 
If it were left just at rep, though, with no incentive to work towards getting a good rep score, I could see it eventually dying out. But if you got something at various rep stages, then it would mean a lot more people would go for it.

At least, that's what I think.

D3V 2007-09-13 03:49 PM

Well hmm, people just start throwing out some ideas. Maybe you could implement the Avatar bonus at a certain Rep as well as 100% (either / or)

.. Idk, i'll brainstorm for a bit, i'm leavin work for now though! YAAA!!

WetWired 2007-09-13 05:23 PM

The admins discussed this when vB3.0 came out years ago. The consensus is that it would be horribly abused and add nothing. More recently, I had an idea based on the "Gravitonsurge stamp of approval," but that requires a shop hack that doesn't suck.

Demosthenes 2007-09-13 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired
The admins discussed this when vB3.0 came out years ago. The consensus is that it would be horribly abused and add nothing. More recently, I had an idea based on the "Gravitonsurge stamp of approval," but that requires a shop hack that doesn't suck.

Killjoy!

!King_Amazon! 2007-09-13 06:30 PM

Dumb idea, IMO.

D3V 2007-09-14 06:53 AM

Well the consensus is 8-0 and i'm sure you guys can edit the rankings if you feel they are being abused, and just allow people to report problems from repeat offenders.

Willkillforfood 2007-09-14 08:30 AM

I'm sure I'd get banned from it.

Lenny 2007-09-14 10:30 AM

Darn tootin'. We could even ban you from using it from the word "Go", if you want, just to save us all time and effort. :)

It might be worth it's own thread at some point, but what exactly are you looking for in a Shop Hack, WW?

Thanatos 2007-09-14 10:37 AM

How would that add 'nothing'? I don't understand your logic when it comes to Zelaron.

I'm sure there are ways that you could bypass the alleged abuse. Make it so you can only +1 or -1 people once every couple of hours or something.

Lenny 2007-09-14 10:45 AM

It might be a bit much, but why not a brief comment on why you've repped +ve or -ve? I mean, if we ban someone we give a comment as to why, so why not do it with reps, too?

Makes it easier to moderate, and the rep-ee can report abuse of the system judging by the comment (eg, a -ve rep and the comment "Yo mom sukz ass craka!!11!!ONE").

D3V 2007-09-14 11:51 AM

Well that's how the one works I use on the other forums.

You have an [Approve] and [Disapprove] button you click on and you leave a brief comment, and the user can check his comments in the Control Panel there will be a specific section just for that.

-Spector- 2007-09-14 02:52 PM

I'd say as long as they had a way to avoid abuse and have a legit Reps, then it'd be badass..

I can imagine some title that you'd have by or under your avatar based on your rep (kinda like how the post count thing used to work)

Maybe..

Ban me please
Loser (I think that ones a given)
Member
Super Member

I dunno.. just throwing out some suggestions of Possible Reps..

And maybe have a "Favored Member" group/rep

ehh I dunno, can't think right now

Willkillforfood 2007-09-14 04:34 PM

Perhaps loser should be the super member spot.

Vollstrecker 2007-09-14 04:41 PM

Depends on what you want this to do.

If you're looking for something to increase activity and such, a shop system would probably be better. Wasn't there a Zelaron RPG? You could tie in posts to generating game-money or something that would reward people for posting.

If you're looking for an epeen boost, this would just be a simple popularity contest, and add nothing at all to the site, it just puts numbers to things generally known. Definitely not worth the effort.

If you're looking to alert new members as to whom is regarded as a good poster, make this available only in sections like Life Discussion and such where people are looking for honest advice and assistance. That would help show people whose advice is often appreciated/etc.

WetWired 2007-09-14 05:18 PM

Problem is, that you can just find someone's random post in the appropriate section and abuse it that way.

As for shop hacks, one that's being maintained would be nice. Last I checked, the only shop hack still arround isn't a real shop hack...

Lenny 2007-09-14 05:22 PM

The answer will probably be, "Very".

The question is - is it hard to program your own shop hack?

And I might as well through in a related question - which programming language/s?

Vollstrecker 2007-09-14 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired
Problem is, that you can just find someone's random post in the appropriate section and abuse it that way.

True enough, I was figuring that would limit the damage a bit though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired
As for shop hacks, one that's being maintained would be nice. Last I checked, the only shop hack still arround isn't a real shop hack...

I definitely don't check on these kinds of things, so if that's the case...

WetWired 2007-09-14 06:43 PM

PHP and MySQL.

Well, I could throw together a shop hack to some extent, but then it would be full of problems and easy to exploit.

Vollstrecker 2007-09-14 07:07 PM

I don't think it'd be worth that kind of effort mate, it'd just be a minor interest for myself.

Kaneda 2007-09-14 07:49 PM

We have to close nit of a group for this. Otherwise it's a good idea

D3V 2007-09-17 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired
Problem is, that you can just find someone's random post in the appropriate section and abuse it that way.

As for shop hacks, one that's being maintained would be nice. Last I checked, the only shop hack still arround isn't a real shop hack...

That's why you guys can check if somebody complains about it. Shit, you aren't that hard to jump on any other PM about somebody complaining about any random thing that may occur, how would a complaint about the E-Rep be any different? You don't have to be so negative right off the bat...

I just see this as a cool little options, you guys are being too serious about it. People abuse every other rule anyways, there is nothing perfect. That's what makes this place cool to post on.

Kaneda 2007-09-17 11:43 AM

I'm just saying I don't care a whole lot of Thanatos gives me +1 Cool Points because I know I'm already the center of his universe. It would be different if we had a lot of new people come in all the time and they make names for themselves(which they do anyways), or we had 1,000 active members and everyone could tell me how totally cool I am.

Thanatos 2007-09-17 01:05 PM

The Leader has spoken.

D3V 2007-09-17 04:09 PM

Alright, nevermind on this idea. Next.

WetWired 2007-09-17 04:16 PM

I should mention that should it be decided my opinion doesn't matter on this, that both Synthesis and Default should both have reputation system support, so my assistance is likely unneeded to do this.

D3V 2007-09-19 10:27 AM

Well no-matter what the outcome I think this would be a fun idea, rather than abusing etc. Everything can be fixed and tweaked, people should atleast just give it a chance.

D3V 2007-12-04 01:47 PM

Well, E-REp did go through, And in case you newer guys haven't noticed, you CAN E-REP people for posts you agree with or disagree with.

There is a little Gray box under the user's Box with green or red dots next to it, click and add reputation.

D3V 2007-12-10 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
Well, E-REp did go through, And in case you newer guys haven't noticed, you CAN E-REP people for posts you agree with or disagree with.

There is a little Gray box under the user's Box with green or red dots next to it, click and add reputation.

Oh, and another thing. Does this system max out on either side of the spectrum, or atleast can you view what it goes up to or can go negative to?..

WetWired 2007-12-10 10:58 AM

IIRC, it's stored in a signed 32-bit number, so you can go about 2 billion positive or negative.

D3V 2008-04-17 02:57 PM

That's awesome, now we just have to make it visible to the public.

WetWired 2008-04-17 06:11 PM

It is. See those green bars on your post? The public can see them, and the represent that number.

Asamin 2008-04-18 08:35 PM

I can;t believe that he actually said that. He didn't notice the bars. Or did not know what they were for. How is this?

Lenny 2008-04-19 07:21 AM

He actually means making your rep score visible to the public, I do believe, and maybe even stats similar to those !K_A! made up:

Quote:

These values are not real, just made up for sake of explaination.

People who have recieved rep from !King_Amazon!:

Mjordan - 24 Rep, 20 positive 4 negative
Grаν¡tоnЅurgе - 18 Rep, 12 positive 6 negative
D3v - 43 Rep, 4 positive 39 negative
Thanatos - 12 Rep, 10 positive 2 negative

Total Rep Given=97, 47% positive, 53% negative

People who have given !King_Amazon! rep:

Mjordan - 19 Rep, 17 positive 2 negative
Grаν¡tоnЅurgе - 15 Rep, 10 positive 5 negative
D3v - 57 Rep, 3 positive 54 negative
Thanatos - 10 Rep, 7 positive 3 negative

Total Rep Recieved=101, 37% positive, 63% negative
http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44987

Asamin 2008-04-19 03:59 PM

Oh, This would be a great idea! Just, yet again, I think that we should have the option, if it is made, to make ours not visible. For the same reason as post count.


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