Mine collapse, again
 

There's breaking news here, the rescuers got collapsed on at the mine here in Utah. From what they are saying, 11 injuries, 1 in very serious condition, and 2 in serious condition.

Yea, my father's a mine rescue person and he says they'll probably call off the rescue now that this has happened. It's tragic but it's just too dangerous for the rescuers.

Well, they're still doing drilling on the surface, and since that's relatively safe, they will probably keep doing that for a little while.

They never should have had people in the mine anyway, the miners are like 3 miles in and the people trying to get in are working 12 hour shifts busting their asses for nothing, they're getting practically nowhere.

I heard they were making 27 dollars a hour...

That's not much more than normal overtime if any for them. One of the was killed and 8 injured.


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Two more died =(.

That's horrible, the company that hires the people to make sure that shit is safe needs to be put in prison, along with any inspectors before this happened.

3 dead 8 injured now, from what I understand.

Yep, what it says on Yahoo, atleast. Shitty man..

We need to rescue the rescuers. Start the rescuing process!

damn this blows.

Meanwhile somewhere around 500 people in peru are dead, 1500 or so injured.

In Iraq, suicide bombers killed like 400 people.

I think the world is coming to an end.

Texas has been flooded for about a year now, and another Hurricane coming their way. Etc etc.

About time.

Oh and you left out that Mike Vick still hasn't faced any jailtime, the world MUST be coming to an end.

It's sad that they cant reach the guys but their prob dead already.

A lot of the miners there feel like they'll dig up their bodies any minute because the truck with the 6 miners was right behind one that escaped pretty much RIGHT before the collapse.

Damn I've been following this story since the origonal collapse and this is moderately depressing....

Question will they keep digging till they find the dead bodies ?

Rescue efforts are suspended indefinitely.

The smart choice, if not the most humane to victims' families.

They should be getting paid more than $27/hr for that shit. I think they need to come up with a machine-rescuer so that there are no more rescuer casualties.

I don't think I'd work there for any amount of money. When those sides explode in the "mountain bumps" it shoots fragments of rock out as shrapnel at amazing speeds. It's like getting shot by a shotgun I'd think (if they're small projectiles, cannon if they're large).

People work in equally dangerous professions elsewhere for less, they knew the risks when they took the job. /shrug

I wouldn't trust a preprogrammed robot to dig me out, wireless controls would reach their limits fairly quickly without humans placing relays in the mine shaft, and wired controls would have a host of problems within the mine shaft as well. It honestly isn't really feasible from a business standpoint, especially with how rare mine collapses are in the first place.

It'd likely be cheaper to pay for the labor and possible death benefits, from a purely business standpoint.

Are you sure the rescue efforts are suspended? I doubt they would stop the drilling because of this. I could understand them stopping the rescue efforts IN the mine, like people going in and digging.

I believe I read they will keep drilling, but no more rescue digging

They sure as hell better not go back to digging.

Really, when you're trying to rescue 6 guys that probably didn't survive the cave in and almost surely haven't survived all this time, and 3 rescuers get killed with 8 injured, I think that means it's time to stop.

Some guys got killed in a hole they dug because they weakened the land overhead too much. The obvious solution is to go dig them out. :rolleyes:

They pretty much underminded the entire granite mountain/hillside and it's sitting down on them =(. Miners normally go through relatively soft coal ...I think some of this they're going through is granite which is much much harder.

I don't know why they ever bothered trying to dig their way in. Drilling is much more practical.

Not really. If different compartments are blocked off it's going to take many weeks to drill to each of them if not months (if they can get to all of them or they don't bring in more drills). If the stability were there they could probably have been most of the way through with their mining. But the conditions just aren't good enough.