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Death 2005-01-05 01:48 PM

Is there really something up there?
 
Is there really something up there?
The brother of my grandma has been a missionary all his life, he started it when he was 22.
Now, he is 79 years old, he got back to Holland(where he lives) 5 years ago.
For 3 years he has been suffering from an uncurable desease.
Now , it is certain that he will die within 3 months. You might think, what's wrong with that, a peacefull death? No. He will suffocate.
Now, he also got cancer, on top of the other desease...
Doctors give him morfin against the pain. You would say, why not kill yourself?
That is completely out of the question, because he is catholic, and it's against god's will to kill yourself. "Suffering is also a part of life".
Then I wonder, for over 50 years he's been working in Africa, with only 1 purpose in his life: God. Now , after those 50 years, he's bound to die a most aganising death. Then I wonder, is there really someone up there?

Over 100 000 deaths in Asia, the number rises on daily bases.
What could humanity have done so wrong to justify this?
If there is any part of the world that maybe would deserve anything like that , it's Northern Europe. Look at Holland, Belgium, France, Germany.
In those country's not even 25% of the people living these go to a church once a year.(including me) If there is any region that should be "punished", it should be Northern Europe.

Give your opinion about this...

I do not intend to hurt anyone's feelings , I just want to discuss this topic.

Mantralord 2005-01-05 03:05 PM

Yay, it's the 53,591'th thread asking "do you believe in God."

platnum 2005-01-05 04:44 PM

This topic has been exhausted.

Demosthenes 2005-01-05 05:02 PM

I don't believe in anything up there.

KagomJack 2005-01-05 05:47 PM

eh, I believe a single supreme, just being. Just not the God we're used to.

Thanatos 2005-01-05 06:24 PM

I do believe there is something up there. I undeniably defy Him everyday, so I'm fucked. Hooray.

KagomJack 2005-01-05 06:29 PM

that's always fun, isn't it?

But there's so many variations of God, it's hard to know what or who is right.

Demosthenes 2005-01-05 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagomJack
that's always fun, isn't it?

But there's so many variations of God, it's hard to know what or who is right.

The one who hates people that aren't straight is the right god!

KagomJack 2005-01-05 06:31 PM

And of course, I would've expected that remark from someone else.

Thanatos 2005-01-05 06:34 PM

Like YOUR PARENTS?

KagomJack 2005-01-05 06:38 PM

zing!

More like from you, KA, or someone else.

i_screwed_ur_ma 2005-01-05 06:42 PM

I knew sum1 was gonna say sumthin like that

KagomJack 2005-01-05 06:44 PM

It's to be expected. A year ago, I'd have been whining and bitching about it, but now I don't even bother to care. They'll say what they want and there's nothing I can do about it. So I try to have some fun with it.

Xenn 2005-01-05 06:56 PM

I think organized religion has really messed up people's image of God.. especially Catholicism.

KagomJack 2005-01-05 07:01 PM

I think people just in general have done that job.

slaynish 2005-01-05 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagomJack
I think people just in general have done that job.


I bet if we tried hard enough, we could still make you cry over your ' boyfriend '


Faggot.


Anyways, yes i believe in god.

Penny_Bags 2005-01-05 07:18 PM

We have no way of knowing anything, and there is no way to justify your belief in anything. Don't try. If you believe in something, you believe in it. Seacrest, out.

MightyJoe 2005-01-05 07:22 PM

Seacrest needs to die, but on-topic there is a god imho, he just doesn't come impact our lives everyday.

D3V 2005-01-05 07:27 PM

Yes I believe in god, alot.

We're all going to die in 7 years, this is the 7 years of hell on earth until 2012. Goodbye sweet sweet ironic shithole world.

KagomJack 2005-01-05 07:34 PM

Probably not, slaynish. But your belief in a god is your belief. Choose whom you want to believe in if you wish.

Demosthenes 2005-01-05 08:14 PM

In this case, I must quote the great one:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han Solo
No mystical force field controls my destiny.


slaynish 2005-01-05 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
Yes I believe in god, alot.

We're all going to die in 7 years, this is the 7 years of hell on earth until 2012. Goodbye sweet sweet ironic shithole world.


For once i agree with the D3V.


You're wise.

I believe in it too, since i was in 3rd grade and i heard the tales of the wise man, i forgot who predicted it, but it was an indian american wasnt it?

Demosthenes 2005-01-05 08:45 PM

I believe that as much as I believe in the world being flat.

Slim 2005-01-05 10:20 PM

Didn't you know? The world IS flat, it's in the bible codes man!

!King_Amazon! 2005-01-06 03:21 AM

Bible code is cool :-)

I think our "God" is aliens.

I'll explain more at a later date.

Thanatos 2005-01-06 04:35 PM

My friend thinks the same exact thing that you do, but I think he's weird. One night we were all drunk and we started talking about religion(donno why..). Anyway, he's like, "I think babies should be put into rooms until they age to 18 and see what kind of religion/faith they come up with." That's just one of his weird ass ideas.

I kinda forgot where I was going with this.. So, fuck it.

Penny_Bags 2005-01-06 05:00 PM

What a fucking gay thing to talk about while you are drunk.

Jk man.

Tyrannicide 2005-01-06 05:39 PM

I despise all those petty religions. Its been proven that human fossils/remains date back before "God created heaven and Earth...".

Thanatos 2005-01-06 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny_Bags
What a fucking gay thing to talk about while you are drunk.

Jk man.

Nah, you're right. I went over there after visiting my girlfriend and they were all talking about it when I walked in; one of my friends was crying (lmao).. so I just joined in on the conversation and got piss drunk. Good times.


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