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Sovereign 2004-12-10 06:16 PM

New Ladder Only r/w's announced
 
Fucking gay that its ladder only. Death looks like a pimp r/w. Ima pay one of my friend to make it.

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/ite...ords.shtml#new

Vollstrecker 2004-12-10 06:41 PM

Some of the Rune requirements are rather insane, and half of them are worthless, whereas most of the ones that take junk Runes are fairly good. O_o

ExT 2004-12-10 07:03 PM

omfg
I wanna play on ladder now

This is the new zealot armor: Fortitude
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck
+25% Faster Cast Rate
+300% Enhanced Damage
+200% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
+ To Life (Based on Character Level)
Replenish Life +7
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
All Resistances +25-30 (varies)
Damage Reduced By 7
12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+1 To Light Radius

+300% eDamage

Grief
5 Socket Swords/Axes
Eth + Tir + Lo + Mal + Ral
35% Chance To Cast Level 15 Venom On Striking
+30-40% Increased Attack Speed (varies)
Damage +340-400 (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
+25% Target Defense
+1.875 (per character level)% Damage To Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
-20-25% To Enemy Poison Resistance (varies)
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+11 Life After Each Kill

Damage +340-400 (varies) = bugged damage for a smiter??

Anyone got ladder mf gear to donate to me? or trade? :D

DamonGalos 2004-12-10 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollstrecker
Some of the Rune requirements are rather insane, and half of them are worthless, whereas most of the ones that take junk Runes are fairly good. O_o

Yeah check out Spirit. Doesn't look so hot as a weapon (though could be a poor mans HOTO) but as a shield for a pvp caster?....Dang...+2 skills, fcr...fhr, life...some resists...and highest rune is an AMN????? Might be the ultimate solution for the DF - Homo debate on another thread (block like a with a homo and get FCR? Who needs resists of a homo or the extra skill with a df that badly?) with a little of the best of both worlds and far cheaper to get too.


Voice of Reason...guess what my pvm freezadin will use now hmm?


Last Wish....bad ass if you can get by the fact there's no IAS on it. Phaseblade and now you have an awesome mf weapon that just crushes opposition between might, ED, and the massive CB bonus...too bad though the requirements are such that if you can afford it then why the hell would you need a weapon like that anyways? For pvp though this might rival the eth botd if you use fanaticism or can reach the IAS a different way (totally BM of course with the massive LT as well).

Overall there looks like a lot of neat potential here....unfortunately a lot of it is either overpriced or overshadowed by other things already out there...still interested to see what the words with a "?" do...

EDIT:

Yes its good to be one of the few ladder only players here ;-)

iceman887 2004-12-10 08:11 PM

geez, the runewords are SO GOOD lol wow but SO EXPENSIVE i wonder what they mean with the ?, does that mean the really don't know or is it like a mystery

MasterTy 2004-12-10 10:35 PM

This sucks ladder is just getting good for me and the economy is just right and then they have to go an do this... there goes the economy... ive already seen prices go crazy for Lo runes... why didnt i think of stocking up on a few Lo runes :-(

DamonGalos 2004-12-10 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterTy
This sucks ladder is just getting good for me and the economy is just right and then they have to go an do this... there goes the economy... ive already seen prices go crazy for Lo runes... why didnt i think of stocking up on a few Lo runes :-(

I think its good because it means the "high runes" will probably be traded closer to 1 for 1 now as more of them have a decent use. So actually in the end it might be easier to get the runes to make that rune word you wanted.

HandOfHeaven 2004-12-11 11:38 AM

Anyone who plays Ladder want to try out the '?' runewords? I am guessing that half of them are shit, 1/4 of them are decent, and the other 1/4 of them are godly. But who knows...

DamonGalos 2004-12-11 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven
Anyone who plays Ladder want to try out the '?' runewords? I am guessing that half of them are shit, 1/4 of them are decent, and the other 1/4 of them are godly. But who knows...


HoH...here so you and anyone else doesn't have to guess with the exception of maybe one runeword. (This isn't my site just something I found)

http://www.knight-rider.org/%7Eturtl.../runewords.php

HandOfHeaven 2004-12-11 04:20 PM

Thanks man. Holy shit, just think about having a Paladin with Fortitude, Phoenix sheild, and Last Wish/Phoenix Weapon.

Dr. Geekstar 2004-12-11 04:44 PM

Indeed, faith & last wish sure looking cool...
i just don't want to know what this will result in :grin:

Phoenix 4 Socket Weapons/Shields Vex + Vex + Lo + Jah ?

Medieval Bob 2004-12-11 07:37 PM

Here's the new shield:

Spirit 4 Socket Swords/Shields Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn +2 To All Skills
+25-35% Faster Cast Rate (varies)
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+15% Enhanced Defense
+250 Defense Vs. Missile
+22 To Vitality
+89-112 To Mana (varies)
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
+3-8 Magic Absorb (varies)
Attacker Takes Damage of 14

DamonGalos 2004-12-12 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
Here's the new shield:

Spirit 4 Socket Swords/Shields Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn +2 To All Skills
+25-35% Faster Cast Rate (varies)
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+15% Enhanced Defense
+250 Defense Vs. Missile
+22 To Vitality
+89-112 To Mana (varies)
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
+3-8 Magic Absorb (varies)
Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Its a very good shield and darn cheap too relative to its counterparts/rivals. The thing is Im not convinced its _the_ shield like HoZ was for so many different paladins or what homo and DF is for necros (partially because you can still socket those and add something else that you might need or give yourself better options on other areas of gear)....I could see it being of definate use to sorcs/druids/trappers though. Depends on the build of course and your other gear i guess.

But don't get me wrong...Spirit is far cheaper to attain and can be used at lower levels than the others.

Dr. Geekstar 2004-12-12 02:31 AM

i agree with you, this shield will prob be used for MF-ing or lowlvl/lowbudget

GEEkZ 2004-12-12 07:54 AM

Damn... Phoenix and fortitude are gonna wreck melee just like levi and EDC did...


Good for me i just quit melee :D

DamonGalos 2004-12-12 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEkZ
Damn... Phoenix and fortitude are gonna wreck melee just like levi and EDC did...


Good for me i just quit melee :D

Wreck melee? I assume you mean make it closer to being 1-2 hit kills (like hammer or charge). If I misunderstand and you mean wreck as in making them not viable I disagree looking at all the different runewords for weapons.

(Personally I sill want to know what Oblivion does....thats such a cool name for a weapon or armor)

Dr. Geekstar 2004-12-12 09:59 AM

If i was a blizz developer, i'd create a candy cane weapon that has stats like a mix of BotD and Azurewrath... just for fun... well, someone please take shots of the new RW's and post em !!

HandOfHeaven 2004-12-12 11:00 AM

Is Oblivion even a runeword? I personally wanna see what Pride does...

DamonGalos 2004-12-12 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven
Is Oblivion even a runeword? I personally wanna see what Pride does...


Its not a released runeword. A long time ago back in .07 I think it was (correct me if I'm wrong on the history) when the runeword combos and potential names were still available to the "hackers" (Im not a hacker I dont understand any of this really) I think someone cracked the game and found the list of words (you can find the list on Diabloii.net I think among other places). Since then the combos have been changed of many of the released runewords when they were finally activated but the actual names have remained the same. Theres a long long list of them...Oblivion was merely one of the still non-activated words.

Dr. Geekstar 2004-12-12 01:47 PM

sounds pretty interesting

DamonGalos 2004-12-12 02:02 PM

Not to go back and beat a dead horse but one thing I did notice on Spirit....

It needs a 4os shield and the only ones that exist are the Monarch and the Ward....

The monarch (the lighter shield) still has a level req of 54 and an str req of a whopping 156. So I suppose it depends on how much vitality you want to sacrifice and how it can affect you choose items that give you the str needed to equip this thing for what might not be a substantial improvement over what you use now....

Even using an Enigma your str will only be increased by about 63 or so give or take depending on level. If you combine this with an anni charm to give you say an additional 18 or so if you have a decent statted one....you're still going to need to sink about 59-60 (varies depending on actual stats of gear) points into Str or use charms that take up space to equip the darn thing (which would reduce vitality or resists or skills anyway).

Considering this is supposedly a caster shield......is it worth it? I don't know.

Pekson 2004-12-12 06:51 PM

Worth it for, 4 socket swords.

GEEkZ 2004-12-12 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamonGalos
Wreck melee? I assume you mean make it closer to being 1-2 hit kills (like hammer or charge). If I misunderstand and you mean wreck as in making them not viable I disagree looking at all the different runewords for weapons.

(Personally I sill want to know what Oblivion does....thats such a cool name for a weapon or armor)


I meant, levi and EDC "wrecked" melee by making 98% of all melee's cookie cutters. What i meant to say was fortitude/phoenix is the new CC IMO.

DamonGalos 2004-12-12 09:39 PM

Phoenix does look interesting. Is Fortitude better than having DR? I don't know I suppose it depends on how much damage you do without the +300%. Remember you can socket a Levi still. You cant do that with a Fortitude.


Pekson remember if you're a caster there are far better caster weapons than a Spirit. (also you dont get the resists when in a weapon...the stats are different). Essentially its like a Silence but you trade resists for FHR and FCR. As a caster though I'd still be sticking with a HOTO probably or if I'm a necro, a white wand (dol io isnt that expensive) with good mods possibly and a sorc has other, better orbs to choose from than a Spirit.

Again low levels and budget its decent for a caster paladin, trapper, druid probably as a weapon. If you can find a way to make the str req work (ie: you like to use a SS on the switch anyways or something) then it could be a potential shield option.

Preference I suppose and again don't get me wrong I do find use in a lot of these new and nifty runewords including Spirit (this was just an example). I just think a counter arguement should be prevalent though among all this rage over new stuff. I suppose "Last Wish" which I find kind of neat especially for pvm could also be a good example of a really nice runeword (though very expensive) but hampered by a weakness in that it has no IAS which thus limits your other gear/builds that can really use it and what you can really socket it into (probably have to be a phase blade and you'll need probably either IAS armor or a fanaticism aura even if you're a speedy zealot).

Sovereign 2004-12-13 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamonGalos
Phoenix does look interesting. Is Fortitude better than having DR? I don't know I suppose it depends on how much damage you do without the +300%. Remember you can socket a Levi still. You cant do that with a Fortitude.

It's the defence thats going to make the difference. For reference, the fomer #1 ww barb uses Duress. The guy that beat him uses Eth Duress. Dr isnt maditory.

GEEkZ 2004-12-13 07:24 AM

not only that, but all zeal duels will now ALL be one hit k.o... phoenix+fortitude=12k+zeal with ebotdz....

Again, dr isnt mandatory if you're both killing in one hit, now is it?

i_screwed_ur_ma 2004-12-13 07:39 AM

i wanna switch to ladder now but i dont wanna start all over again -_-

Sovereign 2004-12-13 12:10 PM

Jarrens zealot does 9k atm and doesn't one hit ko my barb. Of course he has ~6k hp ~_~. But yeah It would be 2 hit ko probably.

Death 2004-12-13 12:13 PM

Mothefuckers , ladder only...

Death 2004-12-13 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEkZ
not only that, but all zeal duels will now ALL be one hit k.o... phoenix+fortitude=12k+zeal with ebotdz....

Again, dr isnt mandatory if you're both killing in one hit, now is it?

Hell , this is gonna be fucked up jOO...

Death 2004-12-13 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i_screwed_ur_ma
i wanna switch to ladder now but i dont wanna start all over again -_-

ditto.....lol

DamonGalos 2004-12-13 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEkZ
not only that, but all zeal duels will now ALL be one hit k.o... phoenix+fortitude=12k+zeal with ebotdz....

Again, dr isnt mandatory if you're both killing in one hit, now is it?

Very true....I suppose this is blizz's answer to the hammerdin cheese...have every class be able to do one hit KOs and demolish all the fun in pvp. I suppose the only thing left would be necro vs necro as neither can stack an absorb for bone and they could just tele around all day spamming spells at each other or trying to use summons.

Ok slight exaggeration but...

GEEkZ 2004-12-13 01:37 PM

Well, with an infinity merc, i suppose it's almost impossible to sorb a sorc anymore, without severely gimping your char that is.

With faith, zons might make a comeback...
Maybe blizz is trying to bring back .09 !

All this to say, when ladder rolls over, dueling is gonna be weird as hell...

Sovereign 2004-12-13 03:20 PM

When ladder rolls over, My barb's getting stripped. Melee dueling is fuckin gay enough as it is, it didn't need this.

Oh, and just what we needed. AUTO AIM FANATA ZONS.

Let's celebrate.

HandOfHeaven 2004-12-13 03:35 PM

Haha your post was at 4:20.

I really want to know what Pride does...

GEEkZ 2004-12-13 04:31 PM

Whoa, this is the most activity i've seen in the d2 forum in a while...

I also think we should celebrate the coming of the auto aim fana zon.
Fun times ahead people.... fun times....

DamonGalos 2004-12-13 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEkZ
Whoa, this is the most activity i've seen in the d2 forum in a while...

I also think we should celebrate the coming of the auto aim fana zon.
Fun times ahead people.... fun times....


Personally I could care less how it affects NL duels when/if ladder rolls over since all I do is play ladder anyways ;) ...I'll probably give away all my stuff to you guys when it rolls over because it would be going to waste anyways since I wouldnt be able to use it on the new season so someone can make their own "gay" fanatazon....

Hmm...Fanatazon...could be like a Fantazon and get a job with those Fanta girls on those stupid commercials.

Sovereign 2004-12-13 10:44 PM

I will pay you to make me Grief right now.


(D2 currency, fools)

ExT 2004-12-14 03:43 AM

I wonder if the bugged damage for smite was done on purpose, it'd be funny if it was patched before the ladder reset :D

GEEkZ 2004-12-14 07:59 AM

Of course it was done on purpose... say hello to the new 5k smite dmg smiter !

This is lame... when ladder rolls over, all hell will break lose...


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