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Demosthenes 2004-10-19 06:19 PM

Who do you believe in?
 
Very open ended question. Who do you believe in, and why? I don't care what you say, whether it be a supernatural deity, or a human, or even something else, just who do you believe in and why?

!King_Amazon! 2004-10-19 06:22 PM

Unknown supreme being that has some relation to the following items.

Pizza subs, sprite slushies, and spam.

Slim 2004-10-19 06:24 PM

I put my faith in God, blessed and still breathin
And even though it's hard, that's who I believe in
Before I'm leavin, I'm askin the grievin - who do you believe in?

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 07:33 PM

Well, I haven't had any real responses yet, but I'll throw in my own. I have a few people:

My parents: They're there for me no matter what. Basically, I've grown up believing what they say. It would be impossible for me not to have faith in them. The day I lose faith in my parents is the day that I will most probably lose hope in everything.

My sister: Probably the best sister anyone could ask for. She does just about anything I ask her. She'd probably follow me to hell and back. I would trust her with anything.

Timmay1113: My best friend for 8 or 9 years. We lived across the street from each other for a long time, and in that time I got to know him pretty well. We'd play basketball, kickball, hide-and-seek, baseball almost every day with the other kids on the street. While they all moved away, Tim stayed, and so did I for a long time. In the time where it was just us two kids on the street I got to know him better than anyone I know outside family. I would trust this guy with my million-dollar lottery ticket, life, wife, whatever.

Tupac Shakur: This man's records are like the bible for me (and yes, this thread was inspired by one of his songs -- Slim posted it a little while back). I don't know why, but his music is so inspirational to me, and I take almost everything he says to heart, whether it be literally or metaphorically.

Niccolo Machiavelli: The greatest political phillosopher of all time. I read The Prince and I was hooked. I actually read The Prince just like that because I heard about Machiavelli in a Tupac song (actually many songs), but once I read it, I was like, "Goddamn. This man knows what He's talking about."

My Uncle: Guy lives in Austin. Very smart man. If anything ever happend to both my parents, he's the guy I would turn to.

Grav 2004-10-19 08:15 PM

What do you mean, you like Miachiavelli?! It's only because you're black and feel the need to oppress, as your kind has done to whites for hundreds of years by pestering us with your presence.

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
What do you mean, you like Miachiavelli?! It's only because you're black and feel the need to oppress, as your kind has done to whites for hundreds of years by pestering us with your presence.

I never said I liked Machiavelli, only that I believed in his philosophy. Plus, his books aren't about opressing people.

Grav 2004-10-19 08:34 PM

You can't even spell oppressing, trashbag.

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 08:37 PM

You can't even spell Machiavelli, Gravitron.

Grav 2004-10-19 08:46 PM

You're 13 years old. And "you're fat" won't work, junior.

zagggon 2004-10-19 09:18 PM

I believe very deeply in the burrowing owls.

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
You're 13 years old. And "you're fat" won't work, junior.

How about, "Tu eres mucho gordo."

Grav 2004-10-19 09:32 PM

Bzzzt. Go back to Africa.

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Bzzzt. Go back to Africa.

Oh snap! I just got gravitized!

http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33878

Grav 2004-10-19 09:34 PM

Bzzzt. Go back to intelligent.

Demosthenes 2004-10-19 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Bzzzt. Go back to intelligent.

Bzzt! Roll back 200 pounds!

!King_Amazon! 2004-10-19 09:45 PM

Way to kill a perfectly good thread Grav, by making one of your very common (these days) dumbass remarks on something you don't even know about.

Machiavelli was a Genius. I also read The Prince and loved it.

‡AC‡ 2004-10-20 03:38 AM

I belive in my own conscience, it is the only thing keeping me from going on a murderous rampage to kill everything on this festering hell hole of a planet.

Grav 2004-10-20 05:25 AM

It's just that you wish you were black, KA.

Eddie_Perez 2004-10-20 06:33 AM

I believe in common sense. Which most of the U.S. lacks.

Randuin 2004-10-20 08:46 AM

Darth Vader

Lenny 2004-10-20 10:03 AM

I don't think I believe in anything.

As far as I'm concerned, a supernatural being can't exist, so I don't believe in one.
All of the people I would even think about believing in were killed horribly.
I can't even believe in myself (that much) because I am so screwed up, espesh in my mind. I'm not right.

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I'd probably end up believing in a Philosopher from some time long ago.

Or Monty Python (listen to the song...)...if I can ever get it on.

Bear with me...I'll probably put it in a later post.

NonGayMan 2004-10-20 10:19 AM

I believe in myself. I'm not going to get help unless I ask for it, I'm not going to accomplish anything unless I think for myself, and when something goes wrong it's nobody's fault but mine.

But my idols are:

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Ludwig van Beethoven
John Winston Lennon
Leonardo da Vinci
Napoleon Bonaparte
Franz Schubert
William Shakespeare
J. R. R. Tolkien
Lorenzo Medici
Benjamin Franklin
Michelangelo Buonarroti
Thomas Jefferson
Octavian Augustus
Adolf Hitler (the Chancellor)

Lenny 2004-10-20 10:23 AM

Nice list.

Out of interest, what do you admire about Hitler???

NonGayMan 2004-10-20 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny
Nice list.

Out of interest, what do you admire about Hitler???

He was the most popular elected leader of all time and made the German economy take off like a rocket. Money in Hitler's Germany was not based on gold but on the capacity of the German people to produce goods. Hitler backed the anti-smoking and discouraged alcohol abuse, saw Christianity as a rebellion against natural law, outlawed Vivisection, had German doctors warn people of the ill effects of artificial food colorants and preservatives in food and drinks, and stressed the need for a return to "organic" or natural ingredients in pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, fertilizers and foods, created many workers' rights organizations such as Labor Unions and the Hitler Youth, and designed internal policies and economic reforms which would have helped the world greatly.

Raziel 2004-10-21 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NonGayMan
But my idols are:

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Ludwig van Beethoven
John Winston Lennon
Leonardo da Vinci
Napoleon Bonaparte
Franz Schubert
William Shakespeare
J. R. R. Tolkien
Lorenzo Medici
Benjamin Franklin
Michelangelo Buonarroti
Thomas Jefferson
Octavian Augustus
Adolf Hitler (the Chancellor)

Why not just tattoo "ART FAG" on your forehead and be done with it? We all know your hero is Howie Mandel.

Grav 2004-10-21 05:07 AM

You should ask Raz where he got his done, NGM. I haven't seen a forearm quite as intimidating as one sporting "www.scatchat.com"

Raziel 2004-10-21 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
You should ask Raz where he got his done, NGM. I haven't seen a forearm quite as intimidating as one sporting "www.scatchat.com"

He could just ask you. Didn't you get the Golden Arches tattooed on your ass at the same place?

Grav 2004-10-21 01:07 PM

So I do advertising. It's just extra revenue.

NonGayMan 2004-10-21 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel
Why not just tattoo "ART FAG" on your forehead and be done with it? We all know your hero is Howie Mandel.

Those artists did much more than just paint and sculpt.

Penny_Bags 2004-10-21 02:51 PM

That was a pretty good list of cool historical figures... but I don't understand how some of those people can be on the same list of idols. Well I understand... but it's still not very logical. But to each his own or something gay like that.

Tyrannicide 2004-10-21 04:04 PM

I put my faith in Buddha. Buddism respects all other religions and it is more of a way of life than a religion itself. It is too much to get into (info wise) right now, but Buddism is a very strong 'religion' imo.

Penny_Bags 2004-10-21 05:39 PM

Why should your religion require you to give some sort of validation to other religions that say completely different things than itself?

Grav 2004-10-21 05:45 PM

The only thing I really believe in anymore is existentialism.

Tyrannicide 2004-10-21 05:55 PM

It just respects other religions, doesn't mean it agree's with them. It says to respect there holiday and ways, nothing about them being 'right'.

KagomJack 2004-10-21 08:03 PM

I believe in God. I just take into consideration all the good and beauty of the world and think that it's too supernatural a charm to not be the product of a divine being.

Thanatos 2004-10-23 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KagomJack
I believe in God. I just take into consideration all the good and beauty of the world and think that it's too supernatural a charm to not be the product of a divine being.

Newsflash: You're bi, and in God's eyes, that's wrong. GG.

That said, I also believe in God. Some of the stuff I saw happen at a church camp a while back only supports my views and beliefs about Him.

KagomJack 2004-10-23 12:28 PM

I honestly don't think God cares what your sexuality is as long as you praise Him and worship Him with love. I try to follow Jesus' teachings and example, and in the end, I think that matters more.

Sovereign 2004-10-23 01:22 PM

No, I'm pretty sure he hates you anbd your going to hell. Let's ask shinto, though!

Penguin 2004-10-23 01:30 PM

I believe in cliché threads not being created over and over again.

Thanatos 2004-10-23 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagomJack
I honestly don't think God cares what your sexuality is as long as you praise Him and worship Him with love. I try to follow Jesus' teachings and example, and in the end, I think that matters more.

Nevermind the fact that it's in the Bible.


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