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Demosthenes 2004-09-26 10:21 PM

Zelaron Clan
 
Is there one? If not, I propose making one.

There is no reason why Zelaron can't be one of the most powerful clans out on the internet. We have a fairly large base of members, but no so large as to where the number becomes overwhelming. We have some pretty skilled D2 players, as well as generous D2 players. I know this has been talked about before previously, but I think that it's important that if we do decide to implement this idea, then those who join the clan take this seriously.

Why make a clan?

That's a fair question. First off, when you play with a group of people that you know or like then the game usually become more fun. I know many of the D2 players here play together already, so why not formally unify ourselves and become a clan? It would make the game more fun to play, it would probably make the game easier to play when we have a large support group, and on top of that, I think we can make trading easier, if you listen to my next idea. I suggest that we set up a clan economy, seperate from the rest of the D2 world. I believe that is an original idea, and if implemented correctly, it can be mutually beneficial to everyone who is in the clan.

I also suggest that we make all members equal. There will be no ranking of members. Ranking members always creates discord in clans. The only "special positions" I suggest are moderator, regulator, treasurer, and the COT. I will go into detail of what each of the special people do later.

How and why would we set up an economy?

Well, I know that there is no official currency in D2, so everything relies on bartering, and trading. Trading can get tedious, especially with the plethora of immature kids on D2. I suggest that we introduce a formal currency into our clan, and try to keep trade within the clan as much as possible.

It will be the treasurer's job to come up with a currency, and go through and assign seperate items a number value based on that currency. I suggest that our currency and items be worth about as much as they would be outside the clan, otherwise I think our economy will fail. Once the treasurer has decided on a currency, it will be the job of our members to try and keep trade inside the clan as much as possible. It would also be best for our members to try and keep the prices that they sell at as close to the value that the treasurer has set. This will allow this idea to take off. I'm not saying you have to cut off trade with the outside completely, I'm just saying that it would be best if you try to trade with people inside the clan first.

I also suggest starting our own 'bank,' also a responsibility of the treasurer. If you need currency, you trade in your item with the treasurer. To be able to maintain a bank, I suggest that we implement a small tax, paid every week or so, also decided by the treasurer; but it should be approved by the members as well. This tax is what will keep the bank and economy going. One important duty of the bank will be to help newer D2 players, and people who have had their items stolen. I can expand on this idea more in the morning if you would like me to.

Requirements to get into the clan:

1.) You must have at least a hundred (exact number subject to change) posts at Zelaron, and have been a Zelaron member for at least a month. This will gurantee that new members don't just sporadically decide to join and leave the clan and take advantage of it.

2.) You must be willing to pay the tax.

3.) You must be willing to follow all rules.

Responsibilities of the treasurer:

As stated above, the treasurer will be in charge of maintaining the bank and assigning values to items. He will collect taxes. He will be probably the most important person to geting this idea going. I say we make a moderator, or trusted member at this board. My suggestion is either Volls, BlackshdwDragon, or Sov. The treasurer will be treasurer as long as he would like to be, and does his job sufficiently. He can be overthrown if an overwhelming majority of our members (say 4/5 of them) don't like what he's doing. He can be impeached if he misuses his powers. The COT will watch the treasurer to make sure he doesn't misuse his powers.

Rules for treasurer:

The treasurer must follow all rules that a regular member would follow. They are not exempt from the tax. They are not allowed to use "money" from the bank. They can only trade it. As stated above, is they do misuse their powers, they can be impeached.

Responsibilites of the Moderator:

The moderator will be in charge of giving D2 players membership, and he will maintain the clan channel. All members must meet all the requisites to be members. The moderator can not simply give someone membership because they are friends with them. They can also expel members if a member consistently misbehaves. The moderator also has a big responsibility, so once again, I suggest that this is either Volls, BlackShdwDragon, or Sov. Moderator keeps his job as long as he likes, or until he breaks the rules.

The moderator must follow all rules that a regular member would. He isn't exempt from taxes. A moderator may be impeached if an overwhelming majority wants it, or if he misuses his powers.

Responsibilities of Regulator:

Discord within clans is usually the downfall of a clan. It's the regulator's job to make sure that all disputes are congenially solved. If two members refuse to agree to any of the regulator's suggestions, then the case will be passed on to the moderator, and the moderator may choose to expel those members. Once again, I reccomend Volls, BlackShdwDragon, or Sov for the job. The regulator will keep his job as long as he likes, or until he breaks the rules.

The regulator must follow all rules that a regular member would. He isn't exempt from taxes. A regulator may be impeached if an overwhelming majority wants it, or if he misuses his powers.

COT:

COT stands for checks on treasurer. His job is to make sure that the treasurer isn't misusing his power. Unlike our previous offices, I suggest that the COT be voted in by the members monthly. No COT should serve two or more consecutive terms. This is to make sure that there is no secret cahoots between the treasurer and the COT.

The COT must follow all rules that a regular member would. He isn't exempt from taxes. A COT may be impeached if an overwhelming majority wants it, or if he misuses his powers.

Duties of Members:

Try to be an honest member. I believe that Zelaron has enough honest people to make most of this clan work based on honesty. It's your duty to help out your fellow members. If a member needs a rush, and you have time on your hands, then go for it. If one of your fellow member's items have been stolen, help them out. If one of your fellow members is being PKd in a game, then go and kick some ass. It's your duty to be a good member. Also, you should try and trade within the clan as much as possible. This will help the clan's economy grow. It's your job to pay the tax. If there is discord amongst two members, you should try to help them out. If there is discord between you and another member of the clan, try and listen to the regulator's advice. Try to stay in the clan channel as much as possible. Most of all, have fun doing this. If you want to leave, it's your choice, just let the moderator know.





That's it, I guess. Tell me what you guys think. How should I change it? Also, if a moderator likes this idea, please say so because there's a much bigger chance of this actually happening if a moderator approves and stickies this idea.

kbrandz 2004-09-26 10:25 PM

I know I don't have 100 posts, but I'd be up for this. It would be nice to have a trusted group to trade with and do baal runs, etc.. with. I've been around here for a while, I just don't post that often.

`Insolence` 2004-09-26 11:31 PM

I love ya mjordan, but this won't work.

I admire you trying it, once again, regardless of the opposition in your way. (morons)

I'll gladly join.

dam 2004-09-27 02:02 AM

I'll join just because trading on bnet sux.....theres some really heavy rip off artists on bnet......you have my committment......I'll rather play in this clan...

d

Joka69 2004-09-27 05:07 AM

Id Join... If After My Inciddent.. U Guys Would Still Let Me Join

Vollstrecker 2004-09-27 01:52 PM

It sounds interesting, but I likely won't be involved in D2 for much longer.

eellis2132 2004-09-27 02:14 PM

i'll join even though i dont have d2 installed right now, but i'll gladly get it up and running.
ins :wave:

btw get at me via aim: eellis2132
easiest way

Demosthenes 2004-09-27 10:10 PM

So none of the mods want to carry through with this?

Sovereign 2004-09-27 10:12 PM

I'll help get it up but I dont want to be a big part of it. My days of clans are over.

Demosthenes 2004-09-27 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovereign
I'll help get it up but I dont want to be a big part of it. My days of clans are over.

What about Black, or Insolence? We need a couple of very trusted members to help set it up. After that, I think it would fall into place by itself if we stuck to it. I would take charge of it myself, but I haven't touched D2 in so long.

Sovereign 2004-09-27 10:16 PM

Get it installed. You are by far the most motivated thus far.

PureRebel 2004-09-27 10:18 PM

Ill join, even tho i hate clans, Zelaron is an Exception..

and maybe,, maybe we could have the other forums in it as well, so it isnt only d2..

Demosthenes 2004-09-27 10:18 PM

That would require installing a whole 'nother OS on my computer. And if I decided to do that, I want to make sure that this thing would at least start up, otherwise I'd be pissed if I had to install Windows for nothing.

Demosthenes 2004-09-27 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureRebel
Ill join, even tho i hate clans, Zelaron is an Exception..

and maybe,, maybe we could have the other forums in it as well, so it isnt only d2..

What do you mean by "other forums."

PureRebel 2004-09-27 10:19 PM

LoL~
(10 char)

Vollstrecker 2004-09-27 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureRebel
maybe we could have the other forums in it as well,

What are these, "other forums" you speak of? There is only Zelaron. ;)

To be honest, in respect to the idea, I would be inactive considering the game is boring me to death (and I'm poor to boot). I don't play the game much at all, and I will likely quit completely when WoW hits.

PureRebel 2004-09-28 12:31 AM

i mean the other different Game forums in Zel Like StarCraft Etc.

`Insolence` 2004-09-28 08:32 AM

There are about 5 good starcraft gamers on this website, and none of them would join :)

Randuin 2004-09-28 08:51 AM

Wasn't there a Zelaron Clan before but it failed?

Vollstrecker 2004-09-28 09:25 AM

KoZ

I actually saw someone with a KoZ tag on their character a few months ago.

zagggon 2004-09-28 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollstrecker
KoZ

I actually saw someone with a KoZ tag on their character a few months ago.

i was in KOZ, it sucked hard, very inactive, sucky :(

blckshdwdragon 2004-09-28 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
i was in KOZ, it sucked hard, very inactive, sucky :(

i was the coleader if u didnt kno, and gsus was inactive as fuck so it came down to me leaving KoZ since Gsus didnt feel like advancing its power, so i quit and joined up with endurack and strengthen EotD, now im seeing a reoccuring path, so i dunno what i will do next.

ScamAlot 2004-09-28 01:20 PM

Sounds good...

Mydogisyourdog 2004-09-28 02:03 PM

Play DoD with me :D

blckshdwdragon 2004-09-28 04:18 PM

nt, im starting to play CnC:Renegade again

Randuin 2004-09-28 04:29 PM

But TacoX was THE leader and he sucked.

MightyJoe 2004-09-28 06:10 PM

Yeah, it seemed like there was enough activity, but yeah not having a leader that visits hurts.

`Insolence` 2004-09-28 06:11 PM

Not having a leader wouldn't hurt that bad... ESPECIALLY in a D2 clan, a dedicated member would naturally step up and take command.

It wasn't active....

Demosthenes 2004-09-28 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by `Insolence`
Not having a leader wouldn't hurt that bad... ESPECIALLY in a D2 clan, a dedicated member would naturally step up and take command.

It wasn't active....

Zelaron has many great ideas, but hardly any of them ever go through. I suggest giving this noe a shot, but thus far neither mod, nor insolence has expressed much interest in taking charge of the clan. As I said earlier, I'd do it myself, but I don't have Windows installed on my computer, and therefore I can't. (Well, I could, but it's a long, drawn-out process, and my D2 days are behind me) If I did take charge, it would take a lot of work on my part, so I at least want some confirmation that a few others want to take part in this. I was hoping that at our pinnacle we will have around 25 members, and around 10 to start out with.

Joka69 2004-09-28 06:23 PM

i would love to join but id need a char set up... hammerdin perferably... :)

MightyJoe 2004-09-28 06:29 PM

Are you saying you want someone to give you a char? Anyway I don't see why we don't just try to start it up. Also there are enough people that play, or so I think. For the leaders I would have to agree with you,that it really wouldn't matter who was chosen, as long as it was someone known and well liked around here. That might be hard to find, might not. Looking back at the old KOZ forum it seemed like there was a lot of posting at the start then it went downhill. But if we had more people that played it could change. For the leader, MJ, to start with. Or we could do a leading by commitee.

wilma 2004-09-28 07:01 PM

as my days of d2 are drawing to a close (i think), I would be willing to try out a clan (never been in one). If I quit, i wil gladly donate all of my stuff to the cause..........if its still around that is

dam 2004-09-28 09:59 PM

question: if your in a clan dose it matter where you play eg..... softcore/hardcore west/east/europe/asia ?

d

wilma 2004-09-28 10:03 PM

ah that may be our problem. It doesn't mean much if we have 20 people active all the time but only two people in the same realm/core and ladder

eellis2132 2004-09-28 10:55 PM

if we get this going i will be active enough, and ive been a leader/captain for many games, its natural to me, but not alot of ppl on here know me much besides ins

ps: if this is gonna happen, let me know so i can get d2 installed and get a char going

aim: eellis2132

MightyJoe 2004-09-29 06:45 AM

I don't see why we sit around and talk about it, maybe Wetwire can get a forum up for this in the d2 section and we could go from there. So far, I know most play east. I think nl has more members then ladder, but I am not sure.

Chili_Mamasita 2004-09-29 10:27 AM

If somebody could lend a hand and give me a rush on east since i usually play in Tiawanese server, I could help maintain a channel bot and could get a few bots running to contribute items where needed.

Demosthenes 2004-09-29 01:52 PM

Well, OK, I don't know how many mods want to do this. I'm going to become part-moderator for two weeks. I will let people into the clan, and help getting the basics set up. Basically, I will organize it on the forums. I will not be participating in the actual D2 part. If there is some discord in the channels then the regulator will have to let me know if he wants me to take some action.

Before we set this thing to full-throttle, I want a treasurer. Mighty Joe, you seem pretty motivated to getting this thing going. If you want the job, it's yours. Contact me, and we can discuss how to lay the basis of this clan.

After my two week period has expired, I will appoint someone else as moderator if they want a job. If anyone has a better idea, then let me know.

The clan will be a USEast clan.

kbrandz 2004-09-29 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
Well, OK, I don't know how many mods want to do this. I'm going to become part-moderator for two weeks. I will let people into the clan, and help getting the basics set up. Basically, I will organize it on the forums. I will not be participating in the actual D2 part. If there is some discord in the channels then the regulator will have to let me know if he wants me to take some action.

Before we set this thing to full-throttle, I want a treasurer. Mighty Joe, you seem pretty motivated to getting this thing going. If you want the job, it's yours. Contact me, and we can discuss how to lay the basis of this clan.

After my two week period has expired, I will appoint someone else as moderator if they want a job. If anyone has a better idea, then let me know.

The clan will be a USEast clan.


Is this going to be ladder or non-ladder?

Demosthenes 2004-09-29 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbrandz
Is this going to be ladder or non-ladder?

Both, I suppose. I'll get back to you with the basic layout of the clan. I haven't really made a broad plan yet, mainly because I've been away from D2 so long that I probably need to check with someone before I make any d2-related decisions. Otherwise, I would have picked a currency, assigned values, and have this thing already in it's first stages.


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