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Demosthenes 2003-11-15 12:01 PM

Suicidal
 
Ever been suicidal or just really depressed? Post here if you are or ever were and tell why if it's not 2 personal.

For me I guess it's basically on and off. Sometimes I seriously feel suicidal, but then it goes away...so its no big deal. But there was a time I was suicidal for a while...or at least i think. I wanted 2 kill myself but never worked up the guts 2. The weird thing is...i dont even know what i was so depressed about...i just was. Is that normal?!?!...lol...i dunno.

Sovereign 2003-11-15 12:04 PM

Yes i was suicidal and depressed. This was 3 years ago, mind you so things have changed. When the love of my life (at the time :() dumped me, i went insaine. I felt so alone, and thought of kiling myself mutiple times. (the thoughts, not actually killling myself, you only have to do that once). I got some help and luckily i am over her and my suicidal tendancies. But it did suck. Very hard times, not knowing if you would let yourself live for a day more.

Demosthenes 2003-11-15 12:07 PM

You know...sometimes I wish I never liked girls. Don't get me wrong I would like 2 fuck em and all but I wish I didn't like...wait...like is not the right word...sometimes I wish I didn't love a specific girl cuz for a while it's great but then the pain from that if it's over is also pretty bad...

Grav 2003-11-15 12:13 PM

I thought about it for a while then realized I'm a dumbass for even thinking it. Besides I'm too lazy to carry it out to begin with.

DaFrigginDoctah 2003-11-15 12:36 PM

I used to be. Not anymore though. :)
It is too personal to say why, but there were quite a few reasons, not just piddly shit. I tried to carry it out many times, but people kept interfering or it didnt work out how I planned, etc.

sh0e 2003-11-15 01:30 PM

no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

and that is what kept me from seriously considering suicide
altho i did for a period of time desire a "way out" so to speak

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 01:43 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Grav 2003-11-15 01:44 PM

Shinto it's good that you're feeling better now but seriously you're scaring me.

Sovereign 2003-11-15 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoe
no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

You have NO right to tell other people what they can and cant do with theire own lives. Not everybody is as big of a religious zealot as you.

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 01:46 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Jamesadin 2003-11-15 01:48 PM

I never have been, though it is normal..

Demosthenes 2003-11-15 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh0e
no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

and that is what kept me from seriously considering suicide
altho i did for a period of time desire a "way out" so to speak

and so whose life is it...
if it's not my life that i am living than what is this?!?!

DaFrigginDoctah 2003-11-15 01:57 PM

It is your right to take your own life, it is just selfish. You'll be causing a shitload of pain to other people, to those who care about you, whether or not you want to believe those people exist, for all, they do. It just creates a chain of suicides... You kill yourself... Your brother gets depressed, after about 6 months or so finally decides to end it, then your sister, or your parents, whatever. It just makes no sense.

Work through the bad things, concentrate on the good things, and the future. Because your future will be better, you just have to quit being so goddamned lazy and do a little bit of work for it, other than accepting the pain again and again of less than mediocre life. Get off your ass, and work for a better future for yourself, and those around you. Start small, then work your way up. You'll get there.

/END OF AFTER-SCHOOL SPECIAL

Demosthenes 2003-11-15 02:03 PM

Makes sense DFD. I agree that it is selfish, and probably would cause pain to some people. But then if you're thinking about killing yourself...its hard 2 think about other ppl at teh same time. I also don't like it that it's illegal to take your own life...there is no way that i shouldnt be able 2 take my own life if i really wanted 2. But yea...i know if i did kill myself my sister would be depressed...and hopefully my parents as well. My sister really does look up 2 me. Other than not having the guts 2 do it she was the other reason that i could never bring myself 2 it. I guess your right...wallowing in self-pity does no good whatsoever but it's hard sometimes not 2...but it must be done.

but then again...i believe it's my right 2 take my life if i want 2...

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 02:04 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

sh0e 2003-11-15 02:05 PM

sorry i couldnt resist the wording

in all honesty i am not highly religious and am.. for lack of a better term agnostic
tho i do still stand by this saying in a different sense

the ability to exist or live.. be it a curse or a gift.. is given as to allow you to become a part of existence.. a part of life.. a part of the human race.. and to survive and allow life to continue existing
to throw away ur own life for the reasons of.. for lack of a better term.. weakness.. is to neglect one of the greatest of responsibilities if not the ultimate

in another sense:
the ability to think and make the choice of self destruction is a product of ur existence
you are contradicting not only your own thoughts but ur entire existence

so by suiciding you are not only being untrue to the world
but also to yourself and your own being
in this sense there is no justification or "right" for ending ur own existence
even from a selfish point of view

the only justification i can see at all is the "right" of "choice"
but even ur ability of choice is contradicted

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 02:07 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

RoboticSilence 2003-11-15 03:52 PM

I'm not suicidal, but I do take pills for depression... :(

-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 03:57 PM

i was suicidal for like 3 minutes when i was emotionally hurt, i don't want to talk about it.

Kuja 2003-11-15 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
God, and Jesus Christ.

This God and Jesus guy are some funny fella.
When you talk to them your praying.
But when hear them. Your crazy.

Demosthenes 2003-11-15 04:02 PM

I wish i had faith in a religion...that would help so much...o well

Jessifer 2003-11-15 05:43 PM

I have a lot of reasons to be suicidal, and I don't care if the whole world knows them. This is probably TMI to some people, but oh well.

I grew up in a poor family. My parents separated when I was young. My dad smoked pot frequently, and my mother worked two jobs. I didn't see either of them very often. My mother...heh...well she was a slut, to be blunt. Popular with the men. But she was also a wonderful person. I loved her. All of the kids in the neighborhood called her a second mother.

Her last relationship with a guy was a mistake. He was about 20 years younger than her, and had psycological problems (though she didn't know it at the time). In the end he murdered her. And then he came for me.

I was only 12 at the time, and rather gullible. He convinced me to get into a car with him, saying my mother had won some money in bingo. He drove around for a while and ended up raping me behind a church. He nearly choked me to death during it.

Yeah. I'm a rape survivor. I'm not ashamed of it at all anymore. I grew out of that within a few years. After it happened my grandparents forced me to see a shrink, in case I did become suicidal.

Other reason I have for being suicidal? Hm, I'm overweight. I have been since I was 11, regardless of not eatting much at all. I don't find myself to be all that attractive. I'm now 19, and I've never been in a relationship with anyone. Male or female. I've never even known anyone to even be interested in me. It's rather frustrating, because I want to have children young. At least by 25.

In short: My parents separated, my dad was a pot head, my mother was a slut, I was raped, my mother was murdered, I'm fat, I'm ugly, and I'm lonely.

And through all of this? Never once have I ever seriously considered ending my own life. Why should I? I cherish everything I've experienced in the past, be it good or bad. Everything taught me how to live life to it's fullest. It taught me to always keep my spirits high, no matter how low life itself may get. What's the point of ending your life today if you don't know for sure just how good it will be tomorrow? Life is full of trials, and every one is a lesson for us.

It's up to us whether we actually heed those lessons or not. Every day brings us pleasure, whether it be small or big. But sometimes we have to give a little extra effort to see it. And life has it's downs. But it feels so good to look back at them and say "I over came that. I didn't let it hold me back. I am where I am today because of that."

And yanno what? Today is a good day to be living.


...Every day is.

Hades-Knight 2003-11-15 05:52 PM

this has been discusse dlike 10 other times

Demosthenes 2003-11-15 06:00 PM

I'm sorry 2 here that jessifer...it's sad
it's great that u cant handle these circumstances so well

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 06:36 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Jessifer 2003-11-15 07:01 PM

Tch. I wasn't aware that I was asking for sympathy. Nor that I was whining.

But hey, thanks for voicing your opinions. I just recommend doing something to relax, however. You seem a bit tense.

-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 07:05 PM

jessifer your life sounds like a book.

Kuja`s #1 2003-11-15 07:06 PM

I could publish it. Seriously, your life is very interesting.

Jessifer 2003-11-15 07:07 PM

Meh. Nah. There's already enough stories like that out there.

Grav 2003-11-15 07:15 PM

That's very sad. You better not be lying, god damnit. I've had quite a few friends die from various things. One of my friend's dads was even murdered on the subway. Life does suck, but friends exist to keep you happy. Keep your friends close.

-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 07:17 PM

enemies closer?




But yeah don't lie about those types of things, don't misslead us to believe your like this, when really your not. This is a very serious topic

Jessifer 2003-11-15 07:17 PM

Oh no. It's no lie. Ask KA. Besides, why would I lie about something as serious as that?

-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 07:20 PM

I don't know, sometimes people lie about sick things. But i'm sorry you had to go through all that.

Jessifer 2003-11-15 07:22 PM

Like Shinto said. It's in the past. I have no reason to dwell on it anymore. I have only the future to look to.

-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 07:29 PM

May it be bright and full of joy

Shining Knights 2003-11-15 07:29 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Grav 2003-11-15 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Rico-GP=-
May it be bright and full of donuts


-=Rico-GP=- 2003-11-15 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Rico-GP=-
May it be bright and full of donuts


rofl.

Titusfied 2003-11-15 11:35 PM

I don't think suicide is as normal as you guys are making it out to be. If you have those thoughts, you seriously need help. I'm not trying to be insensitive or anything, but I myself have never even remotely had those types of thoughts, and if I did, I'd be very worried. Talk to someone about your problems, don't let them bottle up. Its not good.

Eddie_Perez 2003-11-15 11:51 PM

I don't respect emotionally weak people...


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