I can speak two langauges, and half of two more... And I cant make heads or tails out of what the fuck you just said.

It's all pretty simple.

I don't agree with that last part, because there is a damn good reason to believe in God when you die. You meet him. However, I think it is still lame. Also, I don't quite follow the last sentence, but I'm hoping that's what threw Grav and DFD off as well... otherwise...

ENGLISH MOTHUFUCKAS! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?

I think silver is going to break up with you, Bob.

Por qué

...I didn't mean you wouldn't believe when you die...duh...I mean...you can't get on the ship w/o a ticket...you must have it before you get on...

there WAS a big bang and it wasnt created by god but by friction between atoms, when the friction became to big the effect was like 100000000000 nuclear boms creating pieces by the intens frictions, all those pieces blew up and became stars and planets...

I think it went something like this if i remember correctly.
I saw this on a program once with scientists who discovered this
so called "string theory" which could explain the creation of things

any1 who knows more of this post it

"theory" It's a theory. There is no more evidence of a big bang creating all existance than of God doing it.

well that theory made more sence to me when i heard it then the existence of god...

I'm glad it makes sense to you, but I don't really think you're the authority on the existence of God. My point is still very valid and cannot be disproven. There is just as much or more evidence that God created the planet than simply a boom.

"No" in reference to what?

FUCKING MORMONS

LOL the irony, the doorbel just rang when i finished my post here and before me stood 2 jehova witnesses to try and sell me a bible and have a talk about god...

Jehova's Witnesses don't sell Bibles. They give them away. They give you a flier to mail in for one.

k i just assumed i had to buy 1 :x
I just said not thx not interested but they kept on asking are u sure? Asked if i maybe wanted to... before they could finish they're sentence i said no thx again and closed the door. Those ppl are -srry for saying- fucking annoying. They come by like every month and I have to keep telling them im not interested

Don't need to apologize to me. Im not a Jehova's Witness...

Can I ask you a question? There is scientific proof of dinosaurs existing millions of years ago, why is this not addressed by the bible? Reality tells me that these things exist, the bible doesn't. You can categorize everything you see as proof of a God, if that's your mindset. If you look at it through another mindset you can see how animals and such adapt over time to their surroundings.

If there is a God, it's an unfair situation he/she has put us in, for I see more proof (i.e. the dinosaurs) that he didn't exist, then proof he does.

Um.. have you read anything in the past few pages? We addressed the dinosaur issue... I haven't looked for the passages, but if someone will provide an online, full-text Bible, I'll give it a shot.

okay think of it this way, you have never seen god...right, well somepeople have like in the bible, well if you say I have never seen him so I don't beleive in him that makes no sense, you don't see disease, or airborn pathogens, or your brain, but it's still there.

Actually, you can just not without a really powerful microscope. But you can see your brain easy, just bash you head open and wala, there it is.

I believe God still shows himself through the world.

FUCKING PROTESTANTS

Is that guy danceing in Gravs Avitar? How Faggish. I'm ashamed.

Then perhaps there is a way to see God. We just aren't looking the right way yet.

...You know dinosaurs existed? Did you read that in a book, huh...


I'm not saying that I don't beleave that they existed...I do...but you're telling me that I shouldn't beleave that there is a God because I've read it in a book...or seen things on TV about it...
...Like you have with your lame dinosaur statement...

nope never helped me in anyway...once il see this "GOD" than il beleive he exists

honestly who gives a shit, we are all going to the same place.

Have you never believed in anything you haven't seen?

Do you believe in things you see on TV? Do you believe things you read in magazines are true? You have no more proof of these things than any of us today have that there is a God. Accept it. If you can't, think of something more original to say. That line has been used 100,000,000,000,000,0fuckinguberToolongNumber times already. Don't be such a stubborn closed in dumbass, and you might understand a little more about the world.

Wtf? In what religion is this true? This isn't even true to atheists...

FUCKING HEBREWS

I doubt this arguement will ever be settled. We will continue to fight and shit. GOD EXISTS!!!!!!!! Now shuddup heathens!!

[Sarcasm]I'm Jewish[/sarcasm]

I'm sorry. I don't have any Jewish candy VM.

you must have not read the sarcasm part

I'm sorry, you must have not read the part about not having any Jewish candy.

DUDE, MR.BOB, that was funny, where did that quote come from again?? i have to say, good for you , i ALSO read the bible. put i actually stopped at 1 Samuel it got a bit boring. If your reading the bible make sure its not the King James Version of the Bible. thay revised it so much that it don't make any sense anymore. i got to say that the jahovah's witnesses bible is closest to the original, thay even have books that transalate word for word in the bible. try to pick your favorite line, or quote in the bible. mine is 1 Corinthians, chapter 13 verse 1 to 3.
If I speak in the tongues of man and of angels, but do not have love I have become a sounding piece of brass or a clashing symbol, and If I have the gift of prophesying and am acquainted with all the sacred secrets and of ALL knowledge, and if I have ALL the faith so as to transplant mountains, but do not have love ………..I am nothing :-P
(I actually used this line to “pick up” girls. And have to say it actually works......to some point !!!)
I have to say this is correct. it’s like one of those questions like “what came first the egg or the chickin??” just questions that should NOT be answered
(I think in the bible it says one day with god is one thousand years on earth), so if you think about it, in genisis when he said let there be light and another day was let there be oceans, that took thousands and thousands of years to be made. He made it in six days and on the seventh DAY he rested !! if you read more it would say saul son of blank blank. Saul son of steve. That was the only way thay called them selves (come on thay didn’t even have toilet paper !!!)

jesus was there even before the universe was created, he was just put in to mans form ( when he was babtized in his mid 30?) the knowledge( "was sent like a dove") he has before, came back to him. he was there to take up our sins. from adam to the people of jesus. jesus just opened the gates for all of us, the people before jesus well, thay can't go to paradise) only a selected few 144,000 can go to heaven the rest (all of us) go to a paridise like earth (only the good of coarse)!!!

not only that, muslims do not believe on the new testement (which IS mainly about jesus)
think about this,
if jesus was just a legend why was it that even neopolion (that french army guy) knew about him !!!

PS and i did read all of these post and I have to say i am disapointed.....i guess everyone who do not believe on christ, are like that guy thomas, who does not believe untill thay see, anyone here see that old ass movie ten comandments??? thay actually came out with the dvd version, you must watch it, the additude of the people reminds me of the additude of the people here today....we always talk crap untill the last moment !!!

pps is it posibble to open another thread, this thread actually started a year ago !!!

Not gonna quote ya because I don't want to have to separate your quotes from the other quotes, but I will reply.

I got the quote from Southpark. Cartman is taunting Kyle.

Only some religions believe that. That's quite a generalization to throw out really.

Actually, I may have used this reference when debating the issue of evolution somewhere on Zelaron. I'm not sure where it was... but anyway, the point was that I believe in a form of evolution.

I believe that humans actually did evolve over a long period of time. That period of time would be a day of God's time. The only problem is the scale of time, and the only idea I have in that area is that one day to God is not actually 1000 years. Perhaps the Bible only makes the statement to say that God's time passes much more slowly than that of mortals.

It makes sense to me...

Thats the way I have always looked at it, for one it explains the whole dinosaur thing. Two it also goes along woth what scientist have found regaurding that of a race of neanderthals.

I have always thought od Adam & Eve as neanderthals, this also explains the barbaric nature of the people dipicted in the "Old Testament " of the Bible. The whole sacrifice thing.

But see it as you want.

i quoted "no, i don't believe", but that's not the truth, you need something bigger in a dark hour that keeps you crawlin' and biting, that's it,..

there is a nice tale, with a bit taste of chicken and egg question,
it's about a King , a princess , 3 princes and 3 unique rings, The sweet princess just turned 18 , and the 3 princes want to **** her , the king says :"There is only one Original ring, the prince who owns it, is allowed to marry her, or whatever :)"

each ring is owned by a prince, there's one original, but the others are perfect replicas (some say it was the matrix method, some say there always have been 3 rings)
and every prince claims to have the original , all rings are very old (1.00) and nobody can remember which Stone of Jordan is the elder one. These Princes are still alive, one is riding on his lockhead&martin Rockets from the west and looks like .... superman ... oh no i was just ... G.W.B., the second one rides on his horse from the east with an AK 47 in a hand , but's what with the third one , he should be some kind of peacekeeper , he should us remember that all 3 princes are brothers too , some people say you have in every situation at least 3 choices , but some say "Tertium non datur"

every human being has the same possibillities like jesus or mohammed, but i think this is just to much in 3 different ways,
so better make your choice

hopefully this will lead to (advanced) gaming theroy , a great topic to discuss on zelaron

*eyes bug out*

Wtf?

well i believe in god in my case i think there's is a god i believe there's someone who's a supreme being who always watch over us and also in my point of view the death is just the beginning of something new at least for me the death is not the end of everything