Broken telephone? Yeah, we used to play that all the time. Once it got from "Mrs. Koskie is cool" to "Mrs. Koskie got cought by police".

Those new comers should really go back and read some of the older posts that we put up...I myself think they are very interesting and could sway someone to think a bit more on the subject...Some of us think that sure Darwin was right, but maybe it was an act of God...I myself don't beleave this because of the writen word (the Bible) says that He made man from sand and...something else that I can't recall...anyway proof is held with in the Bible...if ppl would read it they would understand and it would be a bit eary...the last book would be the best book for a non-beleaver to read...it tells of the world today and how we are in the last days of the world...try it sometime! :)

The book of Revelations...when I was young it scared the hell out of me lol. But its quite interesting.

Sorry caro...

Holy artifacts could've come from anything, and anyone could've written the bible. We have no proof it was written by jesus or his apostles. IMHO jesus was just a very good, and perhaps the first true, politician. I don't mean to offend anyone with that previous statement, but think about it for a second. Would we believe someone that preaches the exact same stuff using a different name for everything, such as a different name for god, the messiah, adam and eve had their names changed to something, the garden of eden was changed to something else. I don't think most people would. Jesus christ went around preaching and drawing followers. And all this stuff about ressurection...I personally think that is a figment of someones imagination. I have a question for all the believers. If you had never heard anyone talk about god, your parents were non-believers, and your whole community was full of non-believers how absurd would it sound to you if you were to walk into a community of believrs and they were to say that you weren't created as a seed from your parents as science has proved, but instead as a work of a superhuman being who possesses superhuman powers. If you grow up as a believer than you will probably believe in god, if your parents aren't strong believers than you probably wont either. Opinions can always cahnge, and even the outcast coming from a community of nonbelievers could change his opinioin on this whole matter, but it would sound absolutely absurd at first. Slowly as you grow accusstomed to the idea you will accept it as truth, it is only human nature to grow accusstomed to the ideas of their peers.

a thumps up goes to you. :up:

Okay, first. Not to make you look bad, but people didn't read War of The Worlds. It was on the radio. People tuning in, thought that it was real. Secondly, I have to disagree that some guy just made everything up. Sorry. I have my own opinion.

ok noe this is tough but i do not belive in any god and have been an athiest for a few years but now i have switched to "Faithless Catholisism" because iu do belive in the church structure . it teaches us a lot of things about how to live or lives and what not it also gives people a sense of comunity they can say hey i am a member of this chuurch and someone can agree or dissagee forming a thing to talk about (ex. this thread) but i dont belive in an omnipotent being that watches us andd know what we do and will reward us for good deeds. i did however belive at one tim then i found out there is no santa

I get more and more worried for you guys....can you not just sit down and read the Bible and open your eyes...truely?? The world is ending right under your nose and you are to stupid to see that...you ppl make it harder for me to want Christ to come again because I want everyone to come to heaven with me :*(

wow dude youre hard core ion your beliefs so i give you your props. but people have been reading WAY too far into revalation for a thousand years. there have been floods and false messiahs for centuries. do drugs drive fast die pretty

yeah, but it's happening....even more then ever...

If god wanted the world to be gay, i'd be adam and steve, not adam and eve

Um.. was there any relevance there?

i think he ment it'd instead of i'd...he's just stating his oppinion...

I dont believe... It seems to weird to be true. I think we just evolved into what we are over millions of years. Maybe we started out from a little organism washing up on a beach?

If there was evolution then there would be tons of "half-animals" evolving into different things. Now tell me...what half-animals do we have besides the ones that man has created? And you cant really believe in the big bang theory because thats like throwing a bunch of rocks and sticks into a pile and wondering why a tv doesnt pop out......

Not half animals...no. We are constantly changing...look at what scientists predict humas to have looked like 20000 years ago. So if you look at it that way you can just say taht we are half-animals at the moment...evolving into something else. Personally I dont really have a strong belief in how we came into being but im leaning towards the big bang theory.

spector is dumb . . . umm well i am not going to explain but if you agree post it b/c some of us have read a book or two in our lives (fiction doesnt count + the bible is fiction = the bible although good words to live is ridiculus untill i get an autographed copy)

So, until you, obviously our local authorized Bible expert, recieve an autographed copy of the Bible (btw, which authors do you want to sign it?), then it is strictly false I am to assume?

*Sigh* I guess I have to go tell the local preachers..

Okay. I am a firm believer that you have to respect opther peoples opinions. I do think that there are many interpretations of the Bible, but I still believe in God. I know I am not really making much of an argument here, but I do. I grew up knowing that there was someone always watching over me, protecting me if i do the right thing. I don't think that you have to give up all your worldly possesions, but I think that you have to try to do good, and you will ascend into heaven. That is my belief.

Well in response to the simple minded comment, have you ever read any theological texts, i think you would see that the belief in god IS NOT just saying " god is a invisible man that is all good". Theology is very complicated stuff. Also, in order to understand about god being able to be by himself and humans having to be created, you would have to distinguish the difference between creators and creatures. God nature is "to be" therefore he is infinite, our nature, or atleast apart of it is to be finite, to have a beginning. the reason you think that god had to have a beginning is because the whole idea of infinty is beyond human grasp.