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Strider Fury 2002-11-15 10:58 PM

i like your reasoning storm. and i am not going to believe that God is going to thow me in Hell by being a good person but doesnt believe in Christianity.

Rurouni Storm 2002-11-16 09:15 AM

That's something I believe in personally. We're judged by our actions, not our faith.

Silverjinx18 2002-11-16 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Rurouni Storm


If I go to hell for my beliefs, so be it.


Ouch!...Hell is like hot and shit man! When you go to Hell you spend forever in a lake of fire...sucks to be you!

Strider Fury 2002-11-16 10:04 PM

aha! right there is hard evidence of believeing in God only out of the fear of going to Hell.

Hell is God's own little fetish. and i thought that he was all forgiving and stuff.

Silverjinx18 2002-11-16 10:44 PM

He is...but you must beleave that you have done something wrong and beleave that you are a sinner. And no I don't beleave in Christ just because I don't wont to go to Hell...I beleave because of all the hard evidence He has given me to beleave in Him so that I won't have to go to Hell...

Logic 2002-11-16 10:51 PM

all I think hell is, is a mourning for your own grief or your guilt something that will happen in your own mind spirt what ever you want too call it

Medieval Bob 2002-11-17 07:24 AM

Heard this in a Nat Geo video:
Jews don't believe that hell is a seperate place from heaven. Hell is simply the absence of, or distance from the presence of God. So all the people go to the same place when they die. Some are just really far out.

Demosthenes 2002-11-17 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Silverjinx18
I beleave because of all the hard evidence He has given me to beleave in Him
Could u give us some examples of hard evidence that would lead you to believe that the whole universe is gods work alone, and that their were no other factors in its creation, and that christ has been sent from heaven to frogive us of our sins.

Strider Fury 2002-11-17 05:26 PM

oh you mean the Bible, the work that was originally passed down by the word of mouth 2000 years ago that is lucky if even 1% of the entire content is non-fiction.

Silverjinx18 2002-11-17 08:50 PM

YES I DO....and Logic, you have seen What Dreams May Come to many times ;).

StonedVegeta 2002-11-20 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Strider Fury
oh you mean the Bible, the work that was originally passed down by the word of mouth 2000 years ago that is lucky if even 1% of the entire content is non-fiction.
Though you may have some truth behind that, I seriously believe that more than 1% is non-fiction. See, I don't want to discriminate against your opinion. Your opinion counts. And if that is what you believe, then so be it. I feel that most christians put pressure on others to believe what they believe in. I just find that appauling. First of all, christians are supposed to express their feelings, not try to make others believe. Kind of like the whole Spanish Inquisition. (Anyone remember reading about that.) Even if they don't believe what we believe, at least maybe they pray to a god, which could actually be the same god, just a different interpretation. Who says that god is a white or black man that only christians can pray to. Maybe God is the same god that Buddhists pray to, Hindu's pray to, and Christians pray to.

Doofus_AW 2002-11-20 01:41 PM

I have this bad feeling that the Hare Krishnas are right and all non Krishnas will spend eternity damned to wander in a huge burning airport in those silly robes asking people for money.......

Silverjinx18 2002-11-20 01:48 PM

StonedVegeta I agree with you on the same God thing a little...I have thought about that many a time...but I don't think it is right for me as a christian to watch someone go to hell...maybe I could help...

Strider Fury 2002-11-20 01:57 PM

but what does that mean? isnt there punishments for almost every single religion out there in this crazy o world if you dont follow it? what makes it more right for someone to believe in Christianity then any other religion?

Jamesadin 2002-11-20 03:20 PM

Think about it, other religions (not all, but some) premote death of their enemies.

Demosthenes 2002-11-20 04:41 PM

jamesdain i may be ignorant or something but i havent hurd of any religions that condone murder. and what about the religions that dont murder their enemies. What makes christianity more right than those?

tacoX 2002-11-20 05:41 PM

Most christian religions condone murder....

God forgives all...

Rurouni Storm 2002-11-20 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by tacoX
Most christian religions condone murder....

God forgives all...

tacoX is right, many God-fearing religions have at least condoned murder in the past. For Christianity (and I don't mean to pick on it or anything) remember the Crusades or even Joan of Arc? She was killed partially because she believed in a different sect of Christianity.

And the Koran itself says that Muslims are allowed to kill to defend their faith. The problem is that many people manipulate that.

Jamesadin 2002-11-20 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by mjordan2nd
jamesdain i may be ignorant or something but i havent hurd of any religions that condone murder. and what about the religions that dont murder their enemies. What makes christianity more right than those?
The Bible says that if an enemy steals your jacket, give him your shirt. It shows that we dont believe in vengance. On the other hand, why do you think Osama bin Laden is attacking the US? Becuase of religion.

Strider Fury 2002-11-21 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Jamesadin


why do you think Osama bin Laden is attacking the US? Becuase of religion.

based on religion, maybe, though its not the main reason. but lets not get into that.


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