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Chruser 2006-01-15 06:59 AM

Thanks guys. I've noticed that people really prefer my more detailed works, but I still like to keep things loose enough to capture the mood/light/basic ideas. In a sense, it feels like tidying up / adding details to the piece is solely the result of wanting people to find amazement in your technical expertise. "Ooh, the skin is so slick that it looks like a photograph!" Spending 5 hours smudging color blobs together doesn't teach me anything, it feels. Or am I just stupid for not aiming for what "most people really like"?

Anyway, some new studies and stuff, mostly water colors this time:


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/MoronRock.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/shwing.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/aypelzine.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/landscaper.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/candylady.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/SkinStudySheet.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/aquarellic.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/carstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/purploid.jpg

Penny_Bags 2006-01-23 09:43 PM

Well, I'd rail those chicks.

Chruser 2006-01-29 09:47 AM

More stuff coming soon, I just need to photograph some paintings that are too large to be scanned.

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/krowkiz.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/birdsies.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/rider.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/antenna.jpg

Chruser 2006-02-07 04:03 PM

New batch! (Oldest in the top)

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/comp_spsomething.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/comp_hicous.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/comp_spyay.jpg

Life, two Bridgman copies:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/hander.jpg

Master (?) copy:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/copee.jpg

Rendering practice from ref:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/faceh.jpg

Doodles, ignore the giant, skewed head:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/doodlez.jpg


I took the liberty to photograph some recent oil paintings too:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/facel.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/spplanes.jpg

Inspired by Craig Mullins, my choice of colors:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/spoogeriver.jpg

Finally, a sucky mouse doodle from imagination. Bleeh! I guess too much Wacom reliance for digital work isn't good though; I just can't seem to control the strokes well enough with the mouse.
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/mawntz.jpg

Gonna study some Loomis now, hum de dum.

Dar_Win 2006-02-07 04:42 PM

Very nice Chrusuer. I'm jelous you're so good. :(

Chruser 2006-02-10 03:17 PM

Dar_Win: Thanks. Don't be jealous, drawing and painting are really all about practice. The more time you invest in it, the better you will get. Of course, "there are better ways to invest time than to spend two hours filling out a background", to quote Craig Mullins.

Just check this thread out if you don't believe me, I'm amazed the images are still around. Geez:

http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25383


Aaanyway, draw to post. Some Loomis copies and stuff:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/looom.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/loomiscopies.jpg

Employing the ball drawing method on references:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/phor.jpg

Some drawings from imagination:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/doodl.jpg

Hum de dum. Perspective got a bit funky. I should really do more of these, and practice harder on capturing larger shapes and forms quickly:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Blocker.jpg

More stuff:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/washerroom.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/roomdoom.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/crowkire.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/lifedr.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/drowin.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/armedtotheteeth.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/proceptual.jpg

Lenny 2006-02-10 03:26 PM

Wow. Some of these must take ages to do.

I know that this thread is a "Speed Painting" thread, but online the first it seems to be only you contributing. You ought to start up a third thread, again with a certain theme, and a time limit of an hour per picture, and see what people come up with. Just one page of this thread is enough inspiration for most people, let alone 4 pages :p you never know what might come out.

Jamesadin 2006-02-10 05:23 PM

Wow! Very nice stuff. :)

Chruser 2006-02-13 03:08 PM

Lenny, thanks. That's not a bad idea at all, some other art forums have things alike that in the form of daily sketchgroups with certain themes (e.g. "The aliens attack", "Walking trees" et cetera). If anyone reading this would consider to contribute on a regular basis, let me know.

Jamesadin, thanks.

My computer decided to die on me. I had the chance to try Windows XP 64, but it refused to let me install a majority of the drivers. I had to revert back to an older OS, and now I'm without scanner drivers again.

Anyway, some quick studies from ref, about 30 minutes (25-35) each, trying to get better at getting the large shapes and the important things down quickly. Gotta do a bunch of these from life as well. Oldest at the top, newest at the bottom:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/citystuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/groupstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/boatstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/armorstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/trainstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/castlestuff.jpg

Lenny 2006-02-13 03:40 PM

If I was any good, or could find some sort of guide/tutorial, then I'd be jumping at the chance to contribute.

I know there'll be some people willing. Look at the number of current members who posted in the first thread.

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These ones you've just posted are amazing!

Am I right in saying that the castle is based upon one of the Crazy Counts castles somewhere in Germany or around that area?

Chruser 2006-02-15 02:43 PM

New stuff. I should start posting daily, but I'm too lazy to scan so often. Make me. ;)

Lenny, thanks. Not sure where that castle is located, I just picked a random photo on my computer for reference for that one. As for tutorials, I suppose the best thing you could do is to just grab a pencil and start drawing things you see around you. That is, fruits, plants, buildings, people, anything you come across. Build a visual library. Even if you won't remember how to draw a specific person you're practicing, you'll still improve over-all.

I guess this place has a couple of cool painting tutorials and such:

www.sumaleth.com/links

Hmm, a month since this page started apparently. Funky, but I'm not working hard enough.

Oh well, here we go.

Doodle:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/robotentry.jpg


From life:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/spsp.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/mohandz.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/spmark.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/modelay.jpg


From ref:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/refaces.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/lady.jpg

Lenny 2006-02-15 02:47 PM

A dead body? Interesting...

And I like the hands. Interesting to see you contort them into different positions.

Where do you get your inspiration for those you don't draw from life or reference?

EDIT: Okie Dokie. I'll give it a shot. And I'll have a look at that site.

I'm pretty sure that the castle was one of the Crazy Counts. I'll try and find it.

EDIT 2: King Ludwig II of Germany - also known as Mad King Ludwig.

Spent all his gold building 5 absolutely amazing castles. His state ran out of money before the 5th was completed.

He was from Bavaria after all. :)

EDIT 3: I like these. Not as fun as Triple posts though. :(

http://www.gregoryferdinandsen.com/M...Down%20(2).jpg

Recognise that pic?

It's of King Ludwig II's Hohenschwangau Castle.

Chruser 2006-02-21 02:59 PM

Very cool find Lenny, I like that view of the castle. My inspiration for the things I don't draw from life or reference? It depends, sometimes I just want to try to get a certain idea down, so I blob color randomly onto a canvas until something I like appears. Imagining what you want to draw and projecting the image in your mind onto the paper before drawing it seems to help a lot too. Usually I start off by looking at an object of some kind, and then I work from that shape and build on new things from there. It's kind of hard to explain.


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/skyetch1.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/skyetch2.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/skyetch3.jpg

Wonkiest feet of 2006:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/skyetch4.jpg


Stuff from today, I really like how the first one came out for some reason:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/punkstah.jpg

Buncha' blind contours:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour00.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour01.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour02.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour03.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour04.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour05.jpg

Scary:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour06.jpg

Some more studies:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/footsies.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/legsies.jpg

Lenny 2006-02-22 04:59 AM

Hehehehe...you've moved on from hands to feet. :p

This 'blind contours' thing looks interesting. I'm probably wrong in saying this, but is it when you don't look at what you're drawing at all? Instead you feel the contours of the person's face (in this case) and draw what you feel?

undeadzombieguy 2006-02-22 01:08 PM

whoa that's some nice improvement chruser. I've been getting into drawing again lately aswell. I'll post some stuff later. :)

undeadzombieguy 2006-02-22 02:15 PM

Some quick poses sketches with ref
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5...terref19bl.jpg

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4289/masterref20iu.jpg

so far the only "painting" I've done, altough it isnt exactly done, there's still alot of rough edges on it. with ref.
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4199/skullbw6ba.jpg

stuff i did today, no ref
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8104/various18zx.jpg

I've got some more on my pc but alot was lost due to me being stupid. Also have some more classic studies on paper, but I dont have a scanner. :(

I havent really started painting yet, as I want to get the basics of the body in first. But the skull exercise has given me at least the confidence to start painting more stuff real soon. :D

I've also started with maya 3d so it's kind of switching between different stuff all the time but it's alot fun learning it all, especially when you start seeing improvement.

Lenny 2006-02-23 05:32 AM

I've been playing with Maya...well when I say playing, I mean it's been bullying me into submission. After a few months I've finally worked out how one draws the curves...but that's it. :)

It looks like everyone likes to draw hands and arms...the skull's very good too.

See Chruser, you've already got one person willing to post in a new Speed Painting thread.

Chruser 2006-03-01 05:49 AM

Cool, more participation. :D
undeadzombieguy: Thanks, I like the arms, and the gestures look promising. Be careful with using too soft brushes for paintings, they're easy to take into habit. Harder brushes require you to understand the planes (and therefore, form) a little better. Keep it up!


Some recent stuff, mostly studies from ref/life. Paintdrawdoodle to post:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/ColoredFace.jpg

Hogarth planes:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/hogStuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/esp.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/vehic.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour07.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/contour08.jpg


Some Bridgman studies:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/bridgwomaneyes.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/bridgstand.jpg


Marker experiments (mostly from life):

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/markermouthstuff.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/shadowshade.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/fatman.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/miniones.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/seated.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/sitten.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/landing.jpg


Experiments gone horribly awry:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/bagstohell.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/messtohell.jpg


Quick sketches from Spooge ref:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/spoogies.jpg

Yup, that's all for now. Feel free to crit. :)

Medieval Bob 2006-03-01 08:02 AM

Your eyes are getting better.

Chruser 2006-03-08 04:51 PM

Thanks Bob.

I've been busy lately, but here's a doodle. More spams coming up soon:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/AeroFlight.jpg

Randuin 2006-03-09 05:05 AM

How you color good.

Done with traditional media or digitally? If digital with what package and what kind of brush configuration for the mountains?

Chruser 2006-03-09 04:15 PM

New page!

Thanks Randuin. The landscape was painted in Photoshop, with the "Airbrush Pen Opacity Flow" (19 px brush by default), and a few finishing touches added with the "Mesh - Large" brush in the Faux Finish Brushes package, both come with PSCS2, although I remember the Airbrush Pen dating back to PS7 at the very least.

Some spams:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Figure.jpg

(Yeah, this is what happens to my handwriting when I'm more concerned with other things, glaring into the wall (at objects) in this case.)
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Notes.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/ChairMan.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/modallo.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/DoorPainting.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/OrangeishBanana.jpg

(All-day pose, if you're wondering):
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/GroupSit.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Modelord.jpg

A couple of poses from imagination:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Peoples.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Kicker.jpg


I found a couple of older scans, a bit over a week ago or so, some master copies.

Rembrandt copy:
http://www.picaroni.com/data/RembrandtCopy.jpg


Original (after someone scanned it, anyway):
http://www.picaroni.com/data/Rembran...f_Portrait.jpg


Proud-Hon Study:
http://www.picaroni.com/data/Proud-Hon-study.jpg


Edit: Weird, the satsuma looks like a bright-red apple with my Flatron L1715S screen set to "Movie" mode, while it looks more naturally orange in the default mode. I guess I should be comparing colors on more monitors to see what most people will experiencing my color choices as. (As if I really care :))

Lenny 2006-03-09 05:16 PM

Orange for Lenny.

So is the bananana...

I like the Eyes on the copy. Gives it a good sense of realism.

And you know what? I'd imganined your writing to be all curly. :p It slants like it might be left-handed...but I don't think you are.

Although, you're very creative...a good sign of Leftiness.

Chruser 2006-03-15 06:15 PM

I'm right-handed, and not familiar with how your handwriting is "supposed" to slant depending on whether you're right- or left handed. Isn't the right half of the brain responsible for creativity? ;)

Matte painting (painted on top of a photograph):

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/MatteCastlar.jpg


Original photograph:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/CastlarPlate.jpg


Some studies/sketches:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/amies.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/shipms.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/tradolans.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/faciah.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/facies.jpg

JRwakebord 2006-03-15 07:16 PM

I love the matta painting. Impressive.

Lenny 2006-03-16 10:00 AM

I agree, the Matte Painting is truly amazing!

And yeah, the Right-side of the brain is responsible for creativity, which is why you find a lot of the more creative people are left-handed -- left-handers are connected to the right side of the brain, and right-handers are connected to the left side.

According to a couple of studies, a persons writing does slant in a direction depending on the hand they write with. Usually lefties would slant slightly towards the right, because of the way we write (especially those who right with the crab-claw method). It'll be interesting to see how Bob writes, he's a leftie too, I think.

But that's all beside the point. The Matte Painting is great. Good job Chruser. :)

Chruser 2006-03-28 02:54 PM

Thanks guys, I'll need to paint more of those later, they're a really good way to learn more about perspective, lighting and composition.

Big batch this time (kind of), been busy lately. Oblivion managed to hog the weekend too, ouch. Good thing my computer sucks so I can't really enjoy the graphics though. ;)

Mostly stuff from imagination this time around, some stuff from life too, and 2-3 characters with reference as help:


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/LeaningPillars.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/BoatyRemmy.jpg


Two unfinished PS sketches:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/fromthebrain.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/trackway.jpg


More!

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/haeds.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/looneywade.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Induses.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Drawdle.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Walkinbout.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Flyabout.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Ployit.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/peepoz.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Chacol.jpg

Chruser 2006-10-29 08:06 AM

Puh-bah.


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Discoking.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/FlameDoor.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/stylebone.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/HoverCurtain.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Scrubadoo.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Palpatine.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Trip.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Forespeaker.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/ManualMatte.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Turashu.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Trashbagged.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Spoogespired.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Treecut.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/RoboDrone.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Potflower.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Paramount.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Paraphrase.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Velotown.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Fieldyard.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Linegate.jpg


http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Sitdown.jpg

Lenny 2006-10-30 03:01 AM

I like the one with the robot. Reminds me of Dali paintings, kinda.

The different colours for shade is very interesting. It's impressionisty.

Atnas 2006-11-14 03:28 PM

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I had no Idea Chruser was into art.

Hehe... I hope to be as good as you someday. :)

Still got 4 years of highschool to go, then onto Art school with me!

By the way, do you use a tablet? I'm getting a summer job to pay for one.

I'll try and do something and post it.

Yay for a one minute photoshop blowup.

Lenny 2006-11-14 03:41 PM

He is indeedy. So into it that he's doing Art at college.

I think that some, if not most of his work are things that he's painted or drawn and then scanned in and uploaded.

Though you will find quite a bit that he's done on graphics programs.

Atnas 2006-11-14 05:41 PM

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Hmm. A major area I need to work on is profile.

Here's a mousedraft.

Atnas 2006-12-28 03:47 PM

I liked this thread, time to revive!

A character I've been playing around with, not fully finished...
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Atnasx/Driol.png

I did this for some one on RMXP.org
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...x/Frenchie.png

This was a gift for the RMXP.org secret santa
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ftbattler1.png

---------------------------

And I got my tablet today!

I can't wait to try some good old oekaki in it!

Chruser 2007-01-22 11:51 AM

OH YEAH, TABLET MAN! Great to have more posters here. Sorry for not checking this thread in ages, I've been busy.


Digital stuff:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Atronach.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/PenStandJunk.jpg

http://www.mmofps.com/Poo/Albatrossium.jpg


Sargent master copies:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/SargentArab.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/SargentMissPriestley.jpg


Traditional:
http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Bottles.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Factorize.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Brevet.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Boxes.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Trashcans.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/Roomdoodle.jpg

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/CastRule.jpg

Dubby 2007-01-22 01:34 PM

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Spengbaab~

Atnas 2007-01-30 06:08 PM

I should be finishing a few contest entries soon. One's in pencil and another is digital. I'm also doing around 7 others... I'll try and finish soon. Those look great Chruser. You're like... My father figure now. XD

Atnas 2007-03-09 07:36 PM

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...x/SethGR-3.png

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Atnasx/vampo.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...sx/Vampav1.png

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ainPoses-2.png

I've been lazy. Been spriting alot as well.

Lenny 2007-03-10 11:29 AM

Wow. Nice sprites!

Are those done with your graphics tablet?

Atnas 2007-03-11 11:44 AM

The sprites with my mouse, everything else with my tablet.

Chruser 2007-03-29 09:52 AM

Hey guysngals, iIt's been a while.


http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8...edandfifh2.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8...rotatedco1.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9...autoconzo4.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2...ndcutacfs2.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5...maybefieb1.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/959...keiyu02sh5.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8...wkire03aw2.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5316/sp02qh2.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9...rowkeyspr5.jpg


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