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D3V 2009-06-18 08:48 AM

Wait, you used that website to prove your point? I might as well just go to wikipedia and write my own article to have the same substance, :haha:.

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Another problem is that the technique of vaporizing and inhaling the compound can be a bit tricky. Salvinorin A has a relatively high boiling point and people often don't get it hot enough to remain a gas all the way down into the lungs.
Exactly, people don't know how to take and hold a hit. And because salvia burns in a weird way that's why you have to inhale and hold it for so long. 40 seconds is even too much you are going to lose potentcy that long, your lungs when you exhale send that newly breathed in oxygen/mixture and when its filled with the salvia vapor it sends it through your bloodstream which makes you high, obviously. You saying that you need a torch lighter to get high off of salvia is wrong, just plain and simple. I know probably 20 people that have all gotten super high and have gone on a trip, I myself have done so as well, and none have ever used a torch lighter. That's where the entire argument has started, and should end. A torch lighter like I said is just more concentrated, and yes, just using ONE BIC lighter will work.

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Maybe, maybe you're managing to get it hot enough with a bic or two, but it's still nowhere near as efficient as a torch lighter. By the time the hit even reaches your lungs, most of the vapor is gone.
I'm not disagreeing on that point, it is more efficient. But not required is all i'm saying, lulz.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-18 08:57 AM

I'm going to have to agree with D3V on this just because of prior experience. I've used a regular BIC lighter with salvia before and tripped balls; pretty much to the extent of I didn't know where I was but it was crazy awesome. As stated, torch lighters are more efficient, but not needed.

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Acquired 100 x 1 mg xanax
1 oz booms

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 675202)
I know probably 20 people that have all gotten super high and have gone on a trip, I myself have done so as well, and none have ever used a torch lighter.

And there are hundreds more on Youtube claiming the same thing. Ever heard of placebo effect? Me and friends got a kid "high" off of grass straight off the ground in school. I could give you and your 20 people you know sugar pills and tell you it's exstacy and you'd probably all be rolling before long.

The fact is, I know what I'm talking about. The fact is, salvia doesn't get you "high". The fact is, you and your friends are doing it wrong. The fact is, if you did salvia right it would blow your mind.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-18 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 675205)
The fact is, if you did salvia right it would blow your mind.

It truly did blow my mind a couple of times. With BIC lighters...
D3V ain't bullshitting this time.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 09:08 AM

I'll admit it's possible, then. It's still unlikely unless you're a power hitter.

I suggest getting a torch lighter anyway. They're cheap and awesome, even for pot. I've used my torch lighter on a bowl that was thought to be done and gotten a nice hit. I'd never start a fresh bowl with a torch lighter, though. I'd say it's more for clean-up work.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-18 09:13 AM

Well whenever I smoked salvia I smoked it out of a 'Zong'. The way I did it was I just torched the bowl completely until I couldn't hold anymore smoke in my lungs and just held it there until I couldn't hold it in anymore. Worked wonders for me.

D3V 2009-06-18 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 675205)
And there are hundreds more on Youtube claiming the same thing. Ever heard of placebo effect? Me and friends got a kid "high" off of grass straight off the ground in school. I could give you and your 20 people you know sugar pills and tell you it's exstacy and you'd probably all be rolling before long.

The fact is, I know what I'm talking about. The fact is, salvia doesn't get you "high". The fact is, you and your friends are doing it wrong. The fact is, if you did salvia right it would blow your mind.

I'm sorry but I don't smoke with a bunch of fucking puds, nothxkbye.

D3V 2009-06-18 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven (Post 675209)
Well whenever I smoked salvia I smoked it out of a 'Zong'. The way I did it was I just torched the bowl completely until I couldn't hold anymore smoke in my lungs and just held it there until I couldn't hold it in anymore. Worked wonders for me.

Exactly, my buddy brought his 3ft zong. Problem solved.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 10:52 AM

In other news, I've got a new-found love for my Volcano. I've gotten used to the vapor, and now it isn't any worse than smoke to me. I'm going to eliminate smoking other than just smoking some really tasty strains. That's the one thing I don't like about the volcano is all pot tastes the same (so far, anyway). It's a waste to put GrandDaddy Purple in there, because I can't even taste the purple. On the other hand, I really dislike the taste/smell of Sour Diesel now, so I send that stuff straight to the volcano.

And kief in the volcano is NUTS. It vaporizes so nicely.

D3V 2009-06-18 10:56 AM

I'm jealous. For some reason I still don't have a damn vaporizer.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-18 11:02 AM

I saw some Sour Diesel a few days ago and man did it look good. If I do start smoking again I'm going to get some of that.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 11:16 AM

It's a great high. I definitely like the high. It's a very Sativa dominant strain, so it's a really trippy and kinda tweaking high. I just don't like the smell or the taste. The smell is a mixture of lemons and diesel fuel, which somehow combines to form a smell very similar to baby shit. The taste is pretty similar to the smell.

D3V 2009-06-18 11:37 AM

K_A your explanations of everything are too wikipedia-ized. I've never smelled any sour diesel that smells like baby shit.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 12:06 PM

Ok, so that's what it smells like to me? I'm just giving my opinion.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-18 12:53 PM

Smells like dank nugs to me. :rolleyes:

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven (Post 675238)
Smells like dank nugs to me. :rolleyes:

You can't tell the difference between one type of "dank nug" and another?

-Spector- 2009-06-18 01:57 PM

1x loratab.

D3V 2009-06-18 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 675240)
You can't tell the difference between one type of "dank nug" and another?

I most positively can, idk about anyone else.. i'm sure most people can. But most people I know can generalize dank nug and regs for sure, even dank regs smells much better than regular regs, but you can still tell from the smell that it is only regs. As for regular crip, it always smells 100x better than the best regs in the world, it's just an acquired smell sense I suppose.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 02:29 PM

I can tell pretty distinct differences both in smell and in taste, at least for the strains I've tried so far. I mean, I can smell something and probably tell you it's "dank" but that certainly doesn't mean all dank buds smell the same. And yes, Sour Diesel does smell dank. It also smells like baby shit. In my opinion.

D3V 2009-06-18 02:33 PM

I see what you're saying. You think you can smell or taste the differences more? I think for me the taste I can sense more of a varying difference.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 02:41 PM

Well, some strains taste very distinct, like purple, and some strains smell very distinct, like Sour Diesel. Also, visual cues help too. I'd say with all three combined, I can pretty consistantly tell the different between any of my strains without much trouble. Though I'm running out of ALL of them at the moment >.>

D3V 2009-06-18 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 675256)
Well, some strains taste very distinct, like purple, and some strains smell very distinct, like Sour Diesel. Also, visual cues help too. I'd say with all three combined, I can pretty consistantly tell the different between any of my strains without much trouble. Though I'm running out of ALL of them at the moment >.>

I hear yah on that man! Great thing I had stopped smoking for about a week or so because I knew I had an interview coming up and last night I had to cave in and smoke some dank thinking it might be my last time smoking for a long while so I got suuuuperrr pud-status high.

But yeah, the combination of how the bud looks, the smell, and taste/burned smell its almost too easy to pick out the different types of bud once you've been exposed. I'm at the point now where I can tell if any male plant is mixed into the bud or anything. Any seed shells or seeds themselves in the blunts can pick out the smell, it's ridiculous really.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 03:08 PM

I haven't found a single seed in any of the bud I've smoked in the past 2 months or so.

I'm running low. I'll probably run out before the end of the weekend, easily. I'm also broke :(

-Spector- 2009-07-14 09:08 AM

Vicodin is tasty.

D3V 2009-07-14 09:40 AM

The new vaporizer is killllllinnnnnnn meeeeeee

-Spector- 2009-07-17 09:30 AM

Yay for adderall!

HandOfHeaven 2009-07-17 10:34 PM

1 mg xanax + 6 coors beers = relaxed, buzzed state of mind. Very nice since my alcohol tolerance is quite low.

HandOfHeaven 2009-09-11 11:13 AM

Acquired 60 x 50mg Tramadol.

Thanatos 2009-09-11 11:30 AM

No joke: I have not smoked marijuana in over 2 months. I am now starting to have dreams where I am smoking.

Yay for probation!

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-11 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven (Post 681531)
Acquired 60 x 50mg Tramadol.

Ew.

I've got like 32463457 mg of Tramadol, but I don't like it. Doctors give that stuff out like candy here for some reason.

-Spector- 2009-09-12 09:15 AM

Took 2 hits the marijuana last night... first time i've smoked in awhile. /facepalm

I was doing good. :(

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-12 10:35 AM

I took 2 hits of marijuana about 3 seconds ago. First time I've smoked this hour.

HandOfHeaven 2009-09-12 10:42 AM

That seems to be the case here too. I'm not really using it recreationally, just for the pain in my ankle. Next time I should mention that I'm allergic to it. I haven't had any problems with it, but a few of my friends said that it made them really sick.

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-12 10:44 AM

It does make some people sick, and it seems to be pretty common too. Some people supposedly use it recreationally, but I've never really seen any recreational value in it.

HandOfHeaven 2009-09-12 10:47 AM

I had two last night over the course of 4 hours and it didn't really make me sick. I felt floaty, and still kind of do. I'll most likely stop taking it after my ankle heals, because I can't do xanax when I have these in my system.

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-12 11:09 AM

Tramadol made me sleep really well, that's about it.

More pot!

HandOfHeaven 2009-09-14 08:08 AM

Saturday I took 1 tramadol, and about 4 hours later I had a pounding headache, was sweating and hot, dizzy, and puking. Fuck that shit.

Hooray for Vicodin.

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-14 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven (Post 681616)
Saturday I took 1 tramadol, and about 4 hours later I had a pounding headache, was sweating and hot, dizzy, and puking. Fuck that shit.

That's pretty much the reaction that people have to it when they get sick from it. Never happened to me, but I watched Nikki puke her guts up in agony all night once from the stuff.

HandOfHeaven 2009-09-15 08:06 AM

That medication should be banned. I'm glad I got my scrip changed.

!King_Amazon! 2009-09-15 08:36 AM

But it's a synthetic narcotic. The anti-drug groups would like you to think that a synthetic narcotic with "no abuse potential" but possible bad side effects is better than a well known and well loved narcotic that people could get addicted to.


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