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HandOfHeaven 2009-06-05 08:27 AM

Well why not?

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-05 08:47 AM

Because I'll get addicted and ruin my life.

Thanatos 2009-06-05 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grav (Post 673932)
Hang out with different people. At least it's not physically addicting.

This is the problem: all of my friends smoke. No matter where I go there is pot smoking.

I donno.. after 5 straight years of smoking I'm tired of it now. I feel like I should be doing something better with my life. I'm a fairly intelligent person but that goes to waste because I'm high all the fucking time.

Willkillforfood 2009-06-05 11:46 AM

You need new friends.

-Spector- 2009-06-08 09:14 AM

Inventory count:

100mgs of Klonopin
400mgs of Trazodone
152mgs of Zanaflex

Consumed:

20mgs Klonopin
5mgs Xanax XR
16mgs Zanaflex

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w00t I love gettin hooked up

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-08 09:54 AM

Officially starting my "stop smoking for a week" campaign.

D3V 2009-06-08 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 674226)
Officially starting my "stop smoking for a week" campaign.

Fuck that.

-Spector- 2009-06-08 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 674228)
Fuck that.


I concur. I just purchased two marijuana cook books. Eat instead of smoke... you'll enjoy it.

D3V 2009-06-08 10:49 AM

Brownies/Cupcakes/Sweet tea(brewed)/Cookies ... been there, done that.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-08 10:52 AM

Trying to get my tolerance down. And trying to smoke only on the weekends. I think I can make it until Friday just fine. I'm just not sure if I can do it every week.

-Spector- 2009-06-08 10:56 AM

Fun, isn't it? Different buzz.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-08 11:40 AM

Planning on making some pot brownies soon enough. At the very least, I've got to clean my grinder/containers. I'll just soak them in some everclear.

D3V 2009-06-08 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 674237)
Trying to get my tolerance down. And trying to smoke only on the weekends. I think I can make it until Friday just fine. I'm just not sure if I can do it every week.

yah man I agree actually, I need to do the same but.. meh; then again I only smoke like 2-3 times a week anyways. How often you been smokin lately?

Quote:

Fun, isn't it? Different buzz.
Sure is, I feel more relaxed really. My mind seems to slow down more, normal highs I'm like ADHD high and talk constantly.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-08 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 674249)
yah man I agree actually, I need to do the same but.. meh; then again I only smoke like 2-3 times a week anyways. How often you been smokin lately?

2-3-4 times a day.

D3V 2009-06-08 12:56 PM

Well that might be your problem, try even just cutting down to just after work, or just before work like once a day and you'll notice a difference almost immediately.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-08 01:36 PM

Well I stopped wake-n-baking a couple weeks ago, and that helped for a bit. But smoking once after work turned into smoking twice after work turned into smoking however many times I needed to smoke after work to stay high. I think I'm better off just leaving it to the weekends if I can. I'm neglecting things I need to be doing during the week.

-Spector- 2009-06-11 03:49 PM

Just popped a loratab.

Yum, tastey.

HandOfHeaven 2009-06-11 05:37 PM

2 x 1 mg xanax. Floaty...

Thanatos 2009-06-11 07:27 PM

Rolling up a bleezy. Damn you, marijuana.

Grav 2009-06-11 07:47 PM

Pass that over here

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-11 08:48 PM

Smoking a bowl and playing UT2K4 with our benevolent leader.

Grav 2009-06-11 09:03 PM

Pass that over here

-Spector- 2009-06-12 11:17 AM

65x 4mg Zanaflex obtained for FREE! :killgrin:

-Spector- 2009-06-14 02:18 PM

Crazy night last night..

Snorted some fire ecstasy, snorted some fire heroin, ate some xanax, drank, got high.... fun fuckin night!

-Spector- 2009-06-15 07:59 PM

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Got 6 more pills of X... w00t!

2 pink stars
1 Green apple
1 red superman
and 2 blue/purple butterflies


yum yum, just ate 2!

Grav 2009-06-15 09:12 PM

Keep that over there

Thanatos 2009-06-15 09:28 PM

Just inhaled:

half of a blunt
and some poptarts

-Spector- 2009-06-15 10:06 PM

Snorting poptarts = WIN!

D3V 2009-06-16 07:19 AM

got some daaaaaaaaankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kush shit, fuckin balllinnnnnnnnn.

-Spector- 2009-06-16 09:03 AM

Note to self: Make sure you always have marijuana when I roll.

D3V 2009-06-16 10:18 AM

Everyone that came over last night also did some 20x salvia, that shit was amazing. I always forget to record this shit so we can go back and laugh at everyone afterwards.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-16 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by d3v (Post 674970)
everyone that came over last night also did some 20x salvia, that shit was amazing. I always forget to record this shit so we can go back and laugh at everyone afterwards.

did you do it right?

Grav 2009-06-16 03:32 PM

You mean butane?

D3V 2009-06-16 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 674971)
did you do it right?

do it right? they mixed ganj and laced it with salvia in about a 2ft bong. I don't see any better way, personally :grin:

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-16 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 675017)
do it right? they mixed ganj and laced it with salvia in about a 2ft bong. I don't see any better way, personally :grin:

What kind of lighter did you use? How long did you hold the hit? How hard did you hit it?

You pretty much have to hit Salvia as hard as you can and hold it for ~45 seconds. And you can't use a bic, because it doesn't get hot enough.

Hmm. Maybe I should make a "how to smoke salvia" video. As if we need all of the retards out there figuring out how to do it right. It wouldn't be legal for long :P

-Spector- 2009-06-18 07:54 AM

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Marinol anyone?

D3V 2009-06-18 08:07 AM

lolwut?

For one, you don't need a butane lighter; BICs work just fine, and not getting hot enough? IDK where you got that information but it works absolutely fine. They held their hit for 25 seconds and from that point it's whenever you feel ready to exhale, most everyone held for about 30 seconds and everyone tripped complete balls. I honestly would say a torch lighter is not necessary. I'm not saying it's not better, but just not necessary, you can just keep taking a hit with your little jiffy store lighter or BIC or w/e and you'll be fine. Maybe you just need to go look for a video on how to take a proper hit?

If anything just exhale and immediately take another hit as your next 'breath of air' but filled with salvia smoke.

Shit if anything you should make a video of you putting some salvia in your vaporizer, that would be more fun to watch.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 675172)
lolwut?

For one, you don't need a butane lighter; BICs work just fine, and not getting hot enough? IDK where you got that information but it works absolutely fine. They held their hit for 25 seconds and from that point it's whenever you feel ready to exhale, most everyone held for about 30 seconds and everyone tripped complete balls. I honestly would say a torch lighter is not necessary. I'm not saying it's not better, but just not necessary, you can just keep taking a hit with your little jiffy store lighter or BIC or w/e and you'll be fine. Maybe you just need to go look for a video on how to take a proper hit?

If anything just exhale and immediately take another hit as your next 'breath of air' but filled with salvia smoke.

Shit if anything you should make a video of you putting some salvia in your vaporizer, that would be more fun to watch.

Yes, you do need a torch lighter, because as I said, a bic flame does not get hot enough to vaporize Salvinorin A. All you are inhaling is combusted plant matter, not the active ingredient. If anything, you might get light-headed, but you will not trip.

Also, salvia cannot be used in a vaporizer (at least not the volcano) because the vapor precipitates very quickly, unlike THC. By the time you blew up the bag, the vapor would have already precipitated, and you'd be breathing in nothing.

Do some research of your own, you'll find that I'm right. Or just get yourself a torch lighter and find out for yourself.

D3V 2009-06-18 08:23 AM

I, nor anyone else I've ever been with have ever used a torch lighter and can guarantee we have all tripped. The only time I had done it with a BIC lighter I thought peolpe's heads were seperating from their bodies and the lower torso was going through the floor, and a little after that it felt like we were all on a rollercoaster. Def trips all the way around. Maybe try using a water bong and double bic-it.

That may be what it is, I think we actually may have used the 2-lighter method a couple times. But honestly, you still trip without having to use a torch lighter, I guarantee it. A torch lighter is nice, but a BIC will still release the chemicals to make you trip..


*edit*

Okay, since you want me to look things up to prove you wrong.

The only difference in a torch lighter and a BIC is the torch burns in a more concentrated span, the BICs still burn much higher than what Salvia requires. Damn cigarettes burn at 288 celcius, and Salvia requires what? 250c? That's nothing. The torch lighter is prefferred because most people don't know how to take a damn hit, which is where you are wrong, rookie. Just because you like to use a torch lighter doesn't mean you won't get high from Salvia.

Basically you are talking out your ass.

!King_Amazon! 2009-06-18 08:28 AM

And I guarantee you are wrong. Simple as that. If my word alone isn't good enough...

"Another problem is that the technique of vaporizing and inhaling the compound can be a bit tricky. Salvinorin A has a relatively high boiling point and people often don't get it hot enough to remain a gas all the way down into the lungs. Another problem is that so little is used that the vapor often disperses before it gets inhaled. Sometimes people just don't hold the vapor in their lungs long enough for thorough absorption."

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_info3.shtml

Maybe, maybe you're managing to get it hot enough with a bic or two, but it's still nowhere near as efficient as a torch lighter. By the time the hit even reaches your lungs, most of the vapor is gone.


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