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Senesia 2003-06-10 11:46 AM

Or, we shouldn't discuss it's bad or good.
While MapHack aids you in HC, prevent several things from happening, it still violates the Battle.net TOU, EULA, whatever.

It is so-called illegal, and Blizzard is just doing what they have said. I remember awhile ago people complain about Blizzard not keeping their promises. Now at least they keep some promises.

Ganga 2003-06-10 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonGayMan

quote:
Posted by some guy at BNET forums

I cant believe everyone is falling for this. This so called cleansweeping has got nothing to do with getting rid of cheaters. This is just to draw attention away from the fact that blizzard is still NOT GONNA GIVE US THE PATCH.


Or They try to scare people not to hack in patch 1.10, which so they don't need to make a other new patch again....if the 1.10 patch will ever come out.

Also you can bet your bottom dollar that B.net will ban again if the patch not coming up soon. B/c they know how ppl work, first time banning they won't care, second time banning, they begening to carefull. third time banning, they either quit or won't use hack.

IcEE BeAR 2003-06-10 11:58 AM

why dont they do something better with there time... like release the patch... i could careless about botting and MH.. the only ppl who care are the ones who don't know how to bot and don't know where to get mh..

Senesia 2003-06-10 12:04 PM

And Legit players.

C'mon, you risk the chance of being banned when you cheat anyway. Just because Blizzard didn't do anything about them in the past years, doesn't mean they don't have the right to ban those accounts.

Ganga 2003-06-10 12:06 PM

Like senesia say "lets not discuss good or bad". and Icee bear say "the only ppl who care are the ones who don't know how to bot and don't know where to get mh."

The bot give a unfair avantage over the people that acutally not spending their time on google or yahoo searching for hacks, they just simplely play the games.

IcEE BeAR 2003-06-10 12:13 PM

The bot give a unfair avantage over the people that acutally not spending their time on google or yahoo searching for hacks, they just simplely play the games.[/QUOTE]

yeah they give ppl an unfair avantage of getting better items yes.. but i seen tons of ppl ask where to get mh and how to bot in pub games... If you can't find MH your an idiot.. is it that hard to type Maphack using google or you whatever search engine you use.

JiDDaR 2003-06-10 12:19 PM

but when they know where tp get it and when they know how to use it they wouldn't complain about it like IcEE BeAR said.
before i didn't know where i get bots and hacks i hated this people too. but after i get all this hacks it did not interested me. :rolleyes:

Doofus_AW 2003-06-10 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EetMorTacoz
Hackers - Bad
Botters - Bad
Maphackers - Only bad in duels

Hows MH give an advantage in duels??

!King_Amazon! 2003-06-10 12:27 PM

I care about the botting. I don't bot, but I know how to. It's pointless to me, I payed good money for the game so I could play it, not some bot.

JiDDaR 2003-06-10 12:32 PM

the only reason for me was to sell the items to get my money back :) I don't really use this items .

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 12:35 PM

The reason i botted was to get items i couldn't afford. I had lost accounts from the last banning for no good reason. 1 account had 5 99 chars. I had lost a lot so i made it up by botting. Now that i have all my gear back and muled it, botting is not really needed. but botting does catch u up to the ppl that go online and buy stuff like 50 hex. Those ppl are the ones that are on top and are dominateing the game. botting simply helps lower ppl catch up with them....or try to.

now don't get me wrong, i ain't saying we should all bot, i am saying that is the reason i did it and others like me did it. I was very fortunate. I only lost 2 accounts. last banning i lost 8.

I would like to see what would happen if blizz did not involve themselves. If they let the world of diablo 2 or whatever u play just evolve. it could be worse or it could be better. i am not sure what would happen if the didn't keep watch over the world of bnet. before they deleted accounts stuff was worth less and less. I mean a vamp gaze was worth 1 hex, then it was worth 2
i finally saw someone selling 3 unid gaze for 1 hex.

if blizz didn't involve themselves in the game at all. the game would be so hacked up that it would be unfun to play, and unamusing.

JiDDaR 2003-06-10 12:38 PM

it's unfun and unamusing to play it ... hope the new patch will fix that

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 12:41 PM

but i also do not agree with blizzards' ways of dealing with the accounts that bot. first off they need to find out how to make the game fair to everyone. i can tell u this. mass banning is not fair to everyone. banning ppl is prolly not the best way to handle this problem.

and maphack only allows u to see what your computer and the game already see and know. all it does is to allow u to see what ur fellow gamers are wearing and what the world of the game u just entered looks like. u still have to play the game. it just allows u to see things that the game already knows are there.

they should be going after the ppl that dupe and hack up items.

those r the ppl completely messing up the economy the most.

before dupers and hex, a soj was worth quite a bit.

i can sell 5 pgems for 2 sojs now.

now tell me the economy of diablo2 hasn't gone down the toity

!King_Amazon! 2003-06-10 12:47 PM

It's still so hacked up that it's not fun to play.

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 12:53 PM

the patch can do several things. it could fix many problems we have right now. it could catch the eye of more ppl cause there is new ways things work like weapons and armor and skills and stuff.

but it could also open up a pandoras box of problems.

it could open up new ways to dupe, new ways to bot, or all together just better ways to cheat. it also could mess up items that already exist. patching things can effect other things in previous versions. if blizzard releases that patch they have to be absolutly sure it is very hard to cheat. this is one of the reasons they haven't released it, they prolly want to make sure the game has as few of leak holes as possible.

now i have worked hard on diablo 2 getting items and raising chars, but i would like to see what would happen if they reset everything. all accounts and everything. make everyone start all over. now i know they can't cause ppl buy stuff off ebay, and want there money back if they lose everything. but i think it would kinda be neat to completely strat all over again. be kinda interesting. lol just a thought. i ain't saying its a great idea

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 01:01 PM

this is true the game is hacked up badly still.

i am not sure blizzard will ever be able to fix the economy. the ppl that play the game are really the only ones to fix it. but it is kinda impossible to get everyone to agree to helping diablo

if there is a way to hack ppl will do it. what i mean is ppl want the easy way to get items and stuff. this includes scamming, hacking, duping, botting. these are all ways to get stuff u didn't really find.

and there is always gona be ppl that will not obey the rules of the game. thus they hack up the economy and trading badly.

and so far there really is no way to fix this, except blizz thinks banning will halp scare ppl from cheating. trust me on this
it is so easy to recreate a chars. all ppl do now is go online buy hex. use the hex to buy gear and make the char. and there u have it. the char is back to the way she was.

blizzard is not really helping ne thing. except it is really easy to make a game now. no waitng in line. i have to admit this is kinda nice. :D

Senesia 2003-06-10 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doofus_AW
Hows MH give an advantage in duels??

Say if a legit no maphack using dueler duels with a maphack dueler, the MH user will have an idea of what kind of build the legit dueler is and may counter it.

For Zon, MH users can see the arrows on the mini map. And for ranged dueler, know where your opponent is in the area will always help.

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 01:12 PM

well ppl just got my e-mail from blizzard.

looks as tho they really r closing the accounts for good. this is from 5 minutes ago.

We have received your request to recover an account password and we have
determined that the account has been banned or closed by Blizzard
Entertainment for one or more of the following reasons:

1. Spamming Battle.net Channels
2. Using third-party programs on Battle.net**
3. Advertising commercial and/or pornographic materials, links, or other
inappropriate information
4. Inappropriate behavior as witnessed by a Blizzard Representative - refer
to the Battle.net Terms of Use Agreement for more information
(http://www.battle.net/tou.shtml)

After approximately 90 days, this account will expire. At that time, it will
be possible for anyone to create a new account with the same name.

We regret having to employ such extreme measures; however, certain
unscrupulous players have impaired the game play experience of the community
as a whole and a severe response continues to be warranted. We will not be
able to supply specific information on the detection process or what was
detected. Furthermore, once an account has been closed we will not be able
to retrieve any characters, items, or account information (including Friends
List).

Please be advised that Blizzard Entertainment has an aggressive,
zero-tolerance stance against hacks, cheats, trainers and any other methods
of altering the game play experience on Battle.net in a way that violates
our End User License Agreement.

We feel that hacks and cheat programs provide an unfair advantage to their
users, and they impair, devalue, and - in some cases - seek to ruin the game
play experience for all other players that play our games in a legitimate
manner.

Please note that the use of such programs is a violation of the Battle.net
Terms of Use Agreement and/or our products End User License Agreements.

**Note:
Blizzard Entertainment considers any third-party program designed to affect
the way that a game made by Blizzard Entertainment interacts with Battle.net
- including seemingly harmless programs - a hack program. The use of any
such program will be detected by the Battle.net staff and may result in the
closure of the account tied to the usage of such a program, or even the
temporary or permanent banning of the CD key tied to that particular
account.

{info0dl714bn}


Regards,
Account Recovery

Blizzard Entertainment
http://www.blizzard.com/support
If you respond to this email, please include all previous messages relating
to this issue.

!King_Amazon! 2003-06-10 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortalitus
but i also do not agree with blizzards' ways of dealing with the accounts that bot. first off they need to find out how to make the game fair to everyone. i can tell u this. mass banning is not fair to everyone. banning ppl is prolly not the best way to handle this problem.

and maphack only allows u to see what your computer and the game already see and know. all it does is to allow u to see what ur fellow gamers are wearing and what the world of the game u just entered looks like. u still have to play the game. it just allows u to see things that the game already knows are there.

they should be going after the ppl that dupe and hack up items.

those r the ppl completely messing up the economy the most.

before dupers and hex, a soj was worth quite a bit.

i can sell 5 pgems for 2 sojs now.

now tell me the economy of diablo2 hasn't gone down the toity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortalitus
the patch can do several things. it could fix many problems we have right now. it could catch the eye of more ppl cause there is new ways things work like weapons and armor and skills and stuff.

but it could also open up a pandoras box of problems.

it could open up new ways to dupe, new ways to bot, or all together just better ways to cheat. it also could mess up items that already exist. patching things can effect other things in previous versions. if blizzard releases that patch they have to be absolutly sure it is very hard to cheat. this is one of the reasons they haven't released it, they prolly want to make sure the game has as few of leak holes as possible.

now i have worked hard on diablo 2 getting items and raising chars, but i would like to see what would happen if they reset everything. all accounts and everything. make everyone start all over. now i know they can't cause ppl buy stuff off ebay, and want there money back if they lose everything. but i think it would kinda be neat to completely strat all over again. be kinda interesting. lol just a thought. i ain't saying its a great idea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortalitus
this is true the game is hacked up badly still.

i am not sure blizzard will ever be able to fix the economy. the ppl that play the game are really the only ones to fix it. but it is kinda impossible to get everyone to agree to helping diablo

if there is a way to hack ppl will do it. what i mean is ppl want the easy way to get items and stuff. this includes scamming, hacking, duping, botting. these are all ways to get stuff u didn't really find.

and there is always gona be ppl that will not obey the rules of the game. thus they hack up the economy and trading badly.

and so far there really is no way to fix this, except blizz thinks banning will halp scare ppl from cheating. trust me on this
it is so easy to recreate a chars. all ppl do now is go online buy hex. use the hex to buy gear and make the char. and there u have it. the char is back to the way she was.

blizzard is not really helping ne thing. except it is really easy to make a game now. no waitng in line. i have to admit this is kinda nice. :D

You gonna write us a book?

Immortalitus 2003-06-10 01:17 PM

lol i have been writing a lot haven't i? lol sorry bout that :grin:


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