I think Klo was on Kaneda's aim, and slaynish sent an im, not completely sure though.

Yeah, she was on Kaneda's AIM and slaynish messaged him with a zelaron thread out of the blue and she found Kaneda's thread after some looking around.

So it's all slaynish's fault.

Now my zelaron privacy is forever comprimissed.(sp)
Isn't that thread stickied still? Oh and Klo, I told her what happened and we've worked past that. I hope once you find someone you'll get off my back a little about relationships. I don't get mad when I think about you with someone else, as long as he's a good person. The people you hang out with now though, won't cut it for Austyn to be around. I don't care if you get raped more or w/e because your hanging out with losers but Austyn shouldn't be hurt because of your poor judgment in people. Which no matter what you say you can't deny inside. I've told you so before time and time again. The only reason you don't listen to me is because your so angry at me. The things I tell you are not out of spite or anger. It's just logic. Plain and simple.

slaynish is a bitch witch! Let's burn her!

How the fuck are you going to tell me that you've worked past ANYTHING with someone else??? After the whole "i just dont want to try with anyone right now..." bullshit. You should be trying to build a bond with your fucking daughter, not some bitch your not going to talk to in a year anyways....like always. And what the fuck are you saying shit like that in ref. to my past for? Think you know everything huh? You dont know shit about the people i hang out with...let alone who they are. You're too concerned about your friday night partying...ass hole. And dont try and tell me what's going to cut it for my daughter, because IM THE ONE TAKING CARE OF HER....trying to say that Austyn is going to get hurt isn't going to make you sound good. First, if she did...what would you have to say about it. that you didnt care to make sure she was safe and had everything she needed because you were busy working through you and your new girlfriends problems? Second, nothings going to happen to her because i won't let it...and you know that. So don't be an asshole...the more you are the less i want to involve you with her at all. Your about to cut our last tie, and there will be no coming back this time....for me or her. she desirves a good father anyways...not someone who "loves" us one day and has a new bitch the next. keep pushing it and you wont even get pics in your email.

no, she started talking to me on his aim and i was like "how do i know you" and she said "on zelaron....your kaneda...?" and then i got onto zelaron and went to members list and found "kaneda" and went to read all posts....guess what the first one was?!?!?!? mother fucker

Slaynish is a he

I know. I was being an ass.

Well, with you I had to make sure.

A+

my bad lol

Translation: Get laid bitch so you'll stop bugging me and start bugging some other guy.


Translation: You don't know me asshole, grow up and be a man.





@ Kaneda: Sounds to me like you might need to grow up just a bit, if you've got a daughter and she isn't the most important thing in your life you really need to re-evaluate your priorities.

@ klo: I don't really think Kaneda is such a bad guy, he might just need a rude awakening to straighten him out. Don't expect it to happen though, expect the worst and hope for the best, and if in the end he doesn't grow up, you'll know that you did it all without him. Keep your daughter #1 in your life, maybe even find a good man who will actually be some kind of father to her, and if Kaneda shows he doesn't want to be a part of her life, as sad as that is, you can't force him.

That's the best advice I've read in a long time.

She did go out with you, so are you expecting her to find more people to treat her like did?

My thoughts exactly.

She sounds like she cares about her daughter quite a bit, most likely more than you do. She might have had bad judgement when she picked you but that doesn't mean that she's going to do it again, I think having a daughter to care for would change that. I hope so anyway.

I agree, your children should be the most important thing in your life.

lol i just wrote out a huge long thing of what to post...but then realized i dont want him to read half of it cuz he'll get all pissy about it...haha. guess that's why its cool that you dont really know anyone on here. :(

I want to say that I hope for the best in your endeavors to raise your daughter. I empathize because you may not have wanted kids at this time in your life (as had been the case for my two cousins who had children), but hang in there. Parenthood is full of pain and joy. Focus on the joy more than the pain. And if Kaneda doesn't want to involve himself at all in your daughter's life, as the others have basically said, fuck him.

But not literally, that's what got you into this mess.

Yes, indeed!

yea, that's the difference between kaneda and i. He "blames" us having a kid on me, because i couldn't have an abortion. I was raised differently than him and he's known for the whole 4 years that i couldn't do it. Even if i really wanted to, if anything I could give a baby up for adoption if i couldn't take care of it. I didn't want kids this young, i wanted to be somewhere in my mid-late 20's....I'm only 18. What pisses me off the most so far, is that when I'm up all night with the baby...he's up all night at a bar or w/e. haha, and yes...fucking him did get me into this. But when i told him i couldn't have an abortion, i gave him the opportunity to just leave and not worry about it if he wasn't ready. But he "loved" me so much that he wanted to support whatever decision i made LMAO. ok, well she's screaming a lung out, i better go give her a boob or something.

Start collecting child support. Or do you have to be divorced to do that?

Seriously, Kaneda, I thought you were a good, upstanding guy until I hear her side of the story. You sound like a fucking jealous, jackass pig. It's not all about you. You have a HUGE responsibility now. You have a person in this world that is of your own flesh and blood. Does that not mean anything to you? Fuck all the other girls in your life right now. The only ones you should be caring about are klo and your daughter. Get your fucking priorities straight.

Guys like you are what makes women turn dyke.

You sound just like my cousin Rebecca. Though her "boyfriend" didn't conk out of her life until the second child. The first one she had at 16, but she gave her up for adoption.

Srry.

But lol.

Yeah! STOP MAKING LESBIANS!!

Way to focus on that sentence.

Well i didnt put him on the birth certerifcate so i couldnt do it legally unless i went through someone who would pay for a paternity test. To get medicaid insurance i couldn't say he was the dad cuz we would make too much money...so i said i didn't know who the dad was. And plus, if he gives me child support then he gets "rights" to her...and when she's older he wants to take her for like a couple hours or a weekend or w/e and HELL NO. I'm not going to raise her when she's this little and then when he wants her let him take her. I don't think I'll ever let him be alone w/her...no matter how old she is. Plus i dont think that he'll even be around in a couple months, let alone long enough for her to know/think he's her dad.

It does suck that our sex life is so good....its like he can just look at me and im like "hmmm....". I def. need to get stronger when im around him before I'm allowed to have sex again...or I'll end up in a bigger mess. It's like I'm fine at first when he starts sayin' stuff in reference to sex...but after like the third or fourth thing he says im like "yea, it does sound nice...." and then he just knows ALL my turn ons cuz its been so freaking long. UGH. Not to mention he has a girl, so every look we even give each other is wrong.

Oh, and the boob thing...yea you give her what she wants and your good :P. lol. I'm pretty sure that's all she thinks about....well now she knows my voice and she'll stare at me when im talking to her so maybe she's starting to know me and not my boobs haha.

This is what will happen if he ever got custody:

http://www.psu.com/node/5761

LOL, how could people be so fucked up.

omg i know! But kaneda would def. be one to do that. I'm not so sure for a ps3...but def. for a computer and prolly a 360. how sad.

I couldn't agree with you more.

Firstly. Her side of the storys is always skewed. She doesn't tell you guys that she leaves her daughter with people she has only known a month (and do hardcore drugs like X and Coke) to go get high does she? No.
I realize this is a huge responability and I do what I can. It's hard though when her mom is constantly barrading me with "You'll never see her again asshole!" and then 5 minutes later "This is your daughter why are you ignoring her?" usually all day every day. I see her like... every three days usually and I think for a couple that is seperated thats pretty good. Trust me I do want to bond with her and be a part of her life. It's a great feeling when she just stares at me and I know she's memorizing my image and voice, so she will recognize me soon enough.
You all have to remember though she is only 3 weeks old. Theres not a WHOLE lot I can do in the parenting department quite yet. Even if we were together her mom would be doing alot of it... which mostly consists of feeding her, and putting her to sleep.
You should also remember this was forced upon me. Thats like taking someone into slavery and then getting angry that they aren't giving a 100% of work ethic and whistling while they wipe your ass for you. None the less it's still something I have to do, I will, and I am. She has been freaking out the past week because I went a few extra days without seeing her, because I have been dealing with new jobs, and new living situations. Those are priorities before the baby. Money = everything ok? and I do need a place to live.
So what if I spend time with a girl. Just because I had fatherhood shoved down my throat means I can't have a life now? Thats the kinda shit that makes people abondon they're kids because they are miserable. I don't have to spend every second of my free time trying to see the baby when she doesn't even know if she wants me to see her half the time.

Gay long posts.

You see this is the shit I'm talking about. That's bullshit she won't leave her along with me. I should not be expected to hang out with Klo just because I want to be with my daughter. The reasons we're not together are infinite so why would I want to walk around a park with her or have her at my apt?

Lets see....hmm, you dont know the people i hang out with. So I've smoked since ive had her...she was with my mom and she was fine. my friends don't do x or coke, but obviously yours do since you asked me if i could get you some.

Yes, we're not together...but your the kind of person that would do something to her to try and get to me. Not happening. No way in HELL is some other girl going to be around her like i am, ever. so go ahead and forget that idea. And why would you want me at your apt??? hmm...lets think REAL hard asshole. I didn't force this onto you any more than you forced it onto me. And I at least took it and made the best of it and take care of her.

If we're going to be harsh to each other, I think that we should just cut all ties and forget it. I dont want to hear about how you still think i should have had an abortion...she's my life now. I also dont want to hear about your new bitches, or how much you hate me. you dont need to be an ass to me at all....i havent done you wrong at all. oh and haha, you hadn't seen her in a week...and then you say that you usually see her every few days...she's only three weeks dumb ass.

Seriously, this only gets more and more interesting as time goes on.

I hope how everyone can see how mean she is. While I'm just explaining without put downs.

My friends don't do those drugs, some guys at work wants it for his friends. And obviously your friends do, do them since you told me yesterday that they did and could get them for me. Go away.

f off. ive been telling you all along that we either need to get along and do this together or ill do it alone. So far ive done it alone, and been trying to involve you. if we're both going to be her parents, together or not we need to be a team. I can't have you telling her all this shit against what i tell her so when she's like 13 and mad at me over something stupid i get to hear the whole "i'm going to live w/ dad!"...and you know that you dont want that either so either we are cool...or we dont associate at all and like i said, maybe you'll get pics in your email.

You make me sick the way that you lie to your friends to seem like such a good person. I'm not being mean, and i think you desirve all the 'put downs' anyone can think of. you asked, and i said i probably could...or she could. and stop using all the mins for useless reasons. it just pisses me off more and im more tempted to shut off your phone. i pay for it, so i should be able to use some mins without thinking your using them all on bitches. call them after nine...dont answer before, they wont die.

Ahh yes, the kid just came out of klo after you guys hung out....

Sounds like you're both pretty screwed up to me.

BTW, if you have him forced to pay child support, that doesn't give him "rights" to her. Just because he's helping pay for things, that doesn't mean he has rights to see her, that just means he's doing what is his responsibility. My father had to pay child support all the way until I was 18 and he never even had partial custody of me. I would see him like 1-2 times a year and that was only because I wanted to.

Kaneda I want you to explain to me exactly how fatherhood was forced on you. Did she hold you down and force you to have sex with her?

That's some bullshit right there. Don't say that something as beautiful as a baby was forced on you. That's fucked up. You should be grateful for her, and be a father to her, not treat her like a burdon.

i dont know how he sees it like that either.

Omg Waaa! I'm not being politcally correct.