i also dont think anyone was being serious just making some smart ass comments.

Yeah. I'm interested in a revolution, but may wait for price to go down, even if it might be low.

I download old arcade games for my xbox sometimes, its called X-Box live Arcade.

This is not a semantic nuance; your use of the phrase "backwards compatable" was fundementally incorrect: the system does not provide ANY method of using your existing game collection from all previous systems on your new system. It is only backwards compatable with GCN, maybe.

The problem with the Revolution is that they are going to have to price it around 100 dollars to compete with the other two, (The Xbox is 299 and the ps3 is rumored at 399 I believe.)

I mean there hasn't really been any details of the REVOLUTION released to the public yet.

399 dollars??!

Sweet!!! That's only 220 GBP...:D...


I'd've thought the PS3 would be much more expensive...

Ah well...

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Only a hundred dollars eh...that's what, about £55-£60??

That's pretty cheap...

It needs to be that cheap, i'm guessing they'll let it out around 149.99 like they did last time.

Xbox360 comes out in a few months without another version of halo and no backwards compatibility without purchasing the software for it, they are fucked.

Haven't they said they're gonna release Halo 3 when the PS3 comes out??

Regardless of that, it'll still be a wait for Halo 3.

He doesnt know what the hell he's talkin about. He's just anti nintendo, so of course all his opinions are going to be biast, it doesnt matter if Nintendo released a VR system integraded into the Revolution. It would still be crap to him.

lol i remember the Virtual Boy wow talk about a flop that was a bad thing for nintendo to do.

It was quicker than typing "The Revolution will be backards compatible with the GCN and will be capable of playing games from almost every other Nintendo home console previous." It's already been said several times in this thread that those games would be played via download, and my need to reiterate said statement would have been redundant. You knew what I meant, you're just being a picky nerd. Simmer down, Robocop.


That's supposed to be a bad thing? If they launch the Rev at $100 a pop, I'll buy two. You're bragging about paying over $400 for a console? You're a fucking moron!

Agreed.

That price is why people wait to purchase consoles.

I woudn't be backing a system with no released information yet, all it has is a new case and a new name, no specs, no game lineups, company notes, expected price, nothing. The PS3 is rumored to have a DVD burner built in. If the system comes out at 400, no I will not get one right away, i'll wait for it to drop around 250.

I'm not anti-nintendo at all, they used to be the fucking shit, they and sega paved the way for all gaming systems. I just feel that their games have dropped off alot as they've stayed with the kiddie-type games (all 15 of the Mario Party games, whatever, theres nothing even to really highlight.) I think they should do like sega did and just make good games for everyone else.

And no, I said if they even want to sell any systems they are going to have to release it at 99, which they won't, they can't afford it. $150-$200 will be their release price. Bragging about buying two systems (especially the REVOLUTION would make you a moron. OMG I CAN PLAY MARIO PARTY 23 ON TWO TEEVEES.


Edit: Bahaha read this http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9389

Looks like you've gotta pay to play Mario Land 2. Owned. No free downloads for you, unless you just wanna play for 15 minutes.

Ever heard of a little thing called an emulator??

Or a pc??

Or a download-the-emulator-and-the-game-and-play-on-the-pc??

Why do you think that Nintendo releases so many 'kiddie' games? Games aren't entirely aimed at people from ages 15-25. Mario games are a staple of Nintendo, and many of them have so much free time and they drool when they see a commercial for the new Mario Party or a Spongebob Squarepants game. PS2 doesn't really have a staple character, nor does XBOX. One of the best games on Gamecube, no matter what age you are, is Mario Kart: Double Dash. I could play that for hours on end with people day after day. Quit being such a fucking prick, and thinking that Nintendo is just 'kiddie'.

Yet you have no problems attacking a console with no released information. You are such a fucking moron.

You have got to be kidding me.

Wait, wait, wait. You think that Nintendo's problem is that their games are too child-oriented, yet you think it would be in their best interests to stop making consoles and just focus entirely on the games? The games you hate because they're too child-oriented? You are such a fucking moron.

Can't afford it? Are you aware that Nintendo sits on about 8 billion dollars of liquid capital, half as much in investments and stock, and they have absolutely no debt to worry about? They could afford to buy out Capcom, Konami and Sega without it even making a dent. They were able to afford setting the GCN at $100, and they're still making a profit on hardware sales. You are such a fucking moron.

I'd buy one for travel and one for home use. On top of that, since they'll most likely be LAN capable, it'll make it easier to gather multiple Rev's for multiplayer purposes. You are such a fucking moron.


Yeah, that sounds like a totally unbiased response to me. Not a Nintendo-hater, huh?

I never said they'd be free. I was hoping they'd be, but since the official word is that they're not, I'm not disappointed in the slightest. You have to pay to buy games, you have to pay to rent games, you have to pay to play arcade titles. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume you'd have to pay to play Nintendo's downloads. I'd imagine the cost will be negligible, no more than a buck or two per game. I fail to see how that's "owned".

I'd like to reiterate one final time that you're a fucking moron. You get your ass handed to you, by me, every single time you choose to engage in these scuffles. It honestly makes me laugh to see the way your brain contorts logic and common sense in it's vain attempt to overpower mine. There's no reason for you to even respond, because all it will consist of are limp-wristed attempts to one-up me, and not a single thing you post will succeed. You lose, you always have lost, you always will lose. Just accept it and find someplace else to troll.

Moron.

I do not know about the rest of you guys but to tell you the truth i enjoy playing some of the "kiddie" games. Just because a game doesnt have you shooting someone or some typed of blood and gore doesnt mean that it is not fun to be playin. I mean i love to play Super Smash Brothers Melee and there is no blood at all in it.

There is nothing wrong with the 'kiddy-type' games at all. It's just when people glorify them out of fuckign proportion it's a bit too much to handle. I mean seriously, Zelda better pull gamecube out of the fucking rut that it is in right now or they're screwed.

And no flaming Raziel, this isn't the place for it, you need to have a temp-ban for the 15 times you've flamed me in the Gen Gaming forum.

Rut? Nintendo is the most successful software publisher in thw world. They turn a constant profit every year (except for 2003, in which they reported their only yearly loss in history), whereas Microsoft has lost a few billion dollars in their videogame sector in just this generation. Nintendo makes a continuous profit on hardware sales, even priced at $100, while Sony and Microsoft lose several hundred on every console they manufacture. On top of that, Nintendo is in ownership of the most successful series of gaming hardware ever produced (that being the Gameboy), as well as having no debts and several-billion dollars worth of free assets. How is that a rut? Nintendo is doing spectacularly, regardless of the fact that their global installed userbase is a fraction of Sony's. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is slowly stealing chunks of Sony's userbase, and has more money than God with which to overcome them. Nintendo is doing exactly what they need to be. They don't have the resources to compete directly with Sony or Microsoft, so they let the big dogs tear each other apart while they attack new markets and steal untapped profits away from the other two. Nintendo is is no sort of "rut."

And I haven't been flaming you. If I typed up a post that consisted entirely of attacking you and calling you names, that would be one thing. However, my posts have been intelligent deconstructions of your idiotic statements, with a little bit of name-calling thrown in. There's a difference between flaming and arguing. I've been doing the latter in a very brusque manner. Don't like it? Eat a bag of dicks. Nobody fucking cares what you have to complain about.

They don't have the resources? They've only been the leading gaming console for 18 years they shouldn't have any issues with resources. The new markets? What children being born? I mean it's relatively easy to pop out two more pokemon games every year, and another mario party, and I guess you'd be set, gotta love Parents/christmas time, Nintendo's biggest earning period.

Wow that's a load of shit, if you could please find me some charts / statistics (not from www.nintendo.com) showing their global earning of the past few years, please share with the community, because that sounds alot like a load of horse shit. DO you even have any idea how much it costs to slap together a PS2 / Xbox? I'm guessing around 50-70 dollars, and since they are so dominant and have uber resources, they lose no money, please give me some facts bitch, and quit posting all of this lying ass bullshit. Calling me an ignorant fuck.

People only listen to you because you try to the point if somebody doesn't giggle or golfclap at it they'd feel bad for you. If anyone is the fanboy, Raziel, it'd be you. No go save your pennies for a new version of Mario Party and a Gamecube in a bigger case.

They don't have a hundred-billion-dollar computer corporation to fall back on, and they're not the leading manufacturer of consumer electronics either, numbnuts. They make videogames, and that's it. Their competitors have the Windows and Sony Electronics empires to fall back on. How in the name of God do you just forget about that, you warbling blob-tard?

People who don't play videogames normally. Sony and Microsoft continue to sell only to teen/20-year-old males, while Nintendo is aiming to make money off of the children, women and older consumer markets, all of which combined form a much larger piece of the world population than high school boys do, D3V.

For earnings, look at NPD numbers, jackass. They don't lie. None of this is secret information. It's widely reported and fully accessible to the public. You want the proof, go find it yourself. www.npd.com

As for console costs, it's widely known that Microsoft's console costs around 700 bucks per unit because it's made of expensive, off-the-shelf PC parts. However, the individual unit cost is not only derived from manufacturing costs, but in design, distribution and a few other factors that determine the overall cost of each individual unit. Search IGN or Gamespot and have a ball looking for the individual costs of the production of each console Sony and Microsoft make. They've been losing money on the XBox and PS2 since the beginning of the generation, and this is a widely known fact. It's simply a concession of being a console developer. You lose a lot of money on the console, but you make up for it by screwing the customer on game costs. The fact that you even dispute this, after having been an established fact since the dawn of the videogames industry is staggering.

In regards to Nintendo's profit on hardware, search IGN Cube for articles. I'm not about to spend an hour on dial-up looking through old Mailbags for the information you want. Again, this is widely known to be true, and IGN (the most successful, reputable and sizeable source for videogame news online) has reported this several times. Go look for yourself. I'd recommend even looking through the boards. You'll find this same argument echoed constantly, because it's the truth. Here's somewhere to start, if you feel so inclined:

http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?to...cribersendto=1

People listen to me because I'm an intelligent, capable, respected member of the community. You, on the other hand, are a racist pig that gets off on talking constant shit about a videogame company. People listen to me because I'm awesome, people hate you because you are the textbook definition of "suck."

Just one thing, you say that as a company, you lose a lot money on the consoles but than said that NIntendo doesn't.

"You lose a lot of money on the console..." but than then you make it sound like Nintendo doesn't, which is it?

(I'm not backing up D3V, just asking. No bone to pick here)

Wait, I've already seen this movie...Raziel wins.

Thanks for spoiling it...:P

A nice quote I remember, arguing with Raziel is like slapping a cruise missile.

The standard is that usually, all console makers lose a chunk of cash on the hardware, but make up for it in software sales. Nintendo started this generation out by making a console that, against the norm, was cheap enough to manufacture that they could actually make money off the hardware sales. There aren't any official reports or charts or sales graphs to consult, because videogame companies don't usually release that sort of information. Hardware analysts figure out exactly how much each piece of the hardware would cost to manufacture and they create an estimate based on this. The videogames industry was generally under the belief that up until they dropped the GCN price to $100, Nintendo was actually making cash on hardware sales. Whether or not they're still making a profit at this lowest price is anyone's guess, but nobody has come forth to settle the argument one way or another.

Aight, that clears it up easily. Just gotta be nice and you get a straight up answer. At $100, they must be on the line of no profit though, but maybe it only cost them $75 to make. We will never know unless Nintendo says something. Oh well.

If it only costs them 75 bucks to make one, it's gonna suck.

I was refering to the Gamecube's price. Sorry for the confusion.

yeah nintendo is the leading hand held seller. Sony's PSP if you ask me is more of a Multimedia client than truely a handheld game station. I mean the PSP is basically a PDA on Steriods.

Well, whether the PSP is a PDA on steroids or the second-coming of Jesus doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has the Gameboy to rely on, and its been a cash cow since 1989.

And I wouldn't say the PSP is a PDA on steroids. The DS is a PDA on steroids. It's the one with the touchscreen.

You should never, ever compare a DS to a PDA. ALL it can do is play the shitty 2-bit games that come with the DS. A touch screen, wow. MY register at work has a touch-screen, does that make it a PDA also? Your 'DS' couldn't handle an OS, on the other hand, the PSP could, and is doing that right at this very instant.

Revolution will probably be stopped in the middle of production as Nintendo rerolls.

I hate that game. I thought it was terrible, stupid Gamestop, I returned it the next day and I only got like 20 bucks back. I'd rather just play Mario Kart64.

Honestly just stop posting here, you're just digging a hole to now wheres on yourself. What kind of loser sits on a forum arguing about how crappy a system, that has only had a few images and some minor specs released, and continue to say the company sucks. The Rev. will do fine, theDS is doing great(as much as I want to get a PSP, the DS is great too), stop trying to make yourself sound smart, you're failling at this horribly.

Take your anti-Nintendo ass somewheres else you corporate bitch.

Not anti-Nintendo at all, are you, D3V? Man, you are such a joke.

Yo man I don't like nintendo cuz you can't get no fun games on that shit, i'm buying all three though when they hit the streets. I'ma have all them bitches up in muh housee.

who the fuck is that? Another uneducated tool in the field of video games and consoles.

Nintendo is doing just fine, plus they do havee resident evil games which clearly means it's not just a "kiddy console" but what that tells me is your way to concerned about your masculinity. You put don a console because it's small and has less violent games than otehrs, god I can't stand any of you. Remember the old Mario games, those are still 90% better than a lot of games out now and they are simple 2D non graphic games. It's not all about blood and gore, it's about quality.

Don't reply if your going to utter bullshit.

Ludacris = Zonalon?

No, it's D3v.