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HandOfHeaven 2009-02-03 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 665843)
You don't really have to get to know anyone to have sex, seriously.

This is true. Seriously, just go to college.

Jessifer 2009-02-03 11:06 AM

Find a prostitute...

kyeruu 2009-02-03 11:57 AM

I don't mind that people find it disguisting, what I'm ticked off about is the fact that they made it illegal.

If i want to mate with a close relative and i'm a consenting adult, it shouldn't be anyones fucking business whether i do it or not.

And for the whole "Or proof of infertility" i mean has in, if 1 of the 2 partners can't have children, then a generic disease obviously won't occur, thus it shouldn't be illegal then.

Law makes something illegal because it's a threat to humanity and it's future. Genetically diseases babies (from inbreeding) results in a weaker gene pool, which in the end causes the creation of a weaker human that's not fit to work or any of the sort.

So i understand why breeding is illegal, but that can be fixed if you reproduce with a family member, after the gene pool has been strengthen. Like for example, every 2-4 generations, and on the regards towards cousins every 1-2 generations. Why? In the matter of cousins, cousins own less than half your genes.

A cousin is the son of your mothers sisters, so your cousin holds little less than half your genes, and the genes of another human just the same as you, which reduces greatly the chances of generic diseases.

As for inbreeding like your mother, sister, etc. every 2-4 generations the gene pool should be strong enough to prevent a generic disease, i once met a 20 year old woman, who told me her great grand parents, were indeed siblings, yet she nor her mother have any generic disease what so ever.

When people hear incest, they usually think "rape and deformed babies" but like i explained that's not true.

Incest is any sexual/romantical relationship with someone of your own family, it has nothing to do with having children (although enamoured couples tend to have children as a great way to express their love and create their own little family)

For thousands of years homosexuality and incest were treated as taboo, ignored upon each other and threatened with big legal punishments.

But now, homosexuality is being accepted, yet incest is still a taboo? People don't realize that eventually, humans will have to suck it up, because eventually incest will become something common.

Anyone who's read hentai/doujinshi knows that incest is one of the biggest money makers in the manga industry, the simple fact of 2 siblings loving each other while hiding it from other people, because no one thinks it's "natural" even though one has a penis and the other one has a vagina, tends to give you a kinky sensation if not disgusting.

Not to mention people only consider it disgusting by how society treats the subject, because from a neutral and realistic point of view, incest is much beyond natural, than homosexuality, homosexuals can't even reproduce, incestuous couples just have a higher chance of generic diseases.

There's already a growing faction of people who enjoy and practice incest, and the whole doujinshi society also supports the idea. (That's aproximately, 4-6million humans)

That being said, the law is fucked up >.>

They put conditions, on our so called "freedom"

Like censorship, which i will start a debate rant in a couple of weeks here. (need to research)

So in conclusion, there is no real reason to avoid incest nor to make it illegal.

The goverment needs to shut the fuck up, and let me live my 18 year old consenting life in peace.

>.>

RoboticSilence 2009-02-05 04:51 PM

Look, in the modern age, this law is about as close as we can ethically get to eugenics since most people would agree that incest is immoral. Mixing genes that are so closely related can lead to birth defects and is generally not very good for genetic diversity. As for JRwakebord's remark about the guarantee of infertility: I guess an incestuous marriage could always include castration as part of the ritual.

Goodlookinguy 2009-02-05 10:32 PM

This is the most intelligence kyeruu has ever shown. Had I had no moral sense, I would have a less opinionated thought towards this. So I won't comment any more than this.

D3V 2009-02-06 12:04 PM

Eh fuck it, everyone has a cousin they'd hit if drunk enough.

KagomJack 2009-02-08 10:36 AM

Not I. :/

You know, I bet kyeruu's next post for debate/opinion will be pederestry.

Jessifer 2009-02-10 12:45 PM

Correction: Beastiality.

JRwakebord 2009-02-10 12:59 PM

Sado-necro-bestiality.

KagomJack 2009-02-11 12:09 AM

Oooh, that's a good one!

Jessifer 2009-02-11 10:14 AM

The idea makes me ill...

KagomJack 2009-02-11 02:13 PM

You mean you aren't turned on by the idea of flogging a dead pooch while you fingerbang it?

Wallow 2009-02-11 04:05 PM

I think giving her an example made it worse XP

JRwakebord 2009-02-11 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagomJack (Post 666286)
You mean you aren't turned on by the idea of flogging a dead pooch while you fingerbang it?

Now I have the fingerbang song from Southpark stuck in my head.

KagomJack 2009-02-11 07:57 PM

Whooops!

Bang bang bang, finger bang bang!

Willkillforfood 2009-02-12 09:38 AM

I think sodomy should be legal everywhere before incest :P.

Jessifer 2009-02-12 10:31 AM

...wtf? :weird:

JRwakebord 2009-02-12 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willkillforfood (Post 666328)
I think sodomy should be legal everywhere before incest :P.

In the US it is. Supreme Court ruled that what goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is private and government has no right to intrude.

Silverjinx18 2009-02-14 06:00 PM

I don't know why this isn't legal...or why anyone would want it to be legal. The easy answer to this question as to why it shouldn't work is "why would someone want to mate in their own gene pool?" There would be no advancements in our species and maybe this hurts the government...but i dunno...maybe they just like fucking your mom and don't want you to move in on their territory... ;)

-Spector- 2009-02-14 06:32 PM

Wait... what?


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