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HandOfHeaven 2007-10-15 04:30 PM

Why do you keep bumping old threads of yours?


No Utopia or Unified Race. You learn much through having diversity, and it obviously didn't work out for Hitler.

Kaneda 2007-10-15 04:38 PM

He didn't even get a real crack at it before he was stopped.

Vollstrecker 2007-10-15 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneda
He didn't even get a real crack at it before he was stopped.

This is true, although as I stated earlier, you cannot have a forced utopia.

Kaneda 2007-10-15 05:12 PM

Right. I wasn't saying you could. Although instead of forcing people into it he was just killing them. Thereby leaving (in his mind) a utopia. Correct?

Vollstrecker 2007-10-15 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneda
Right. I wasn't saying you could. Although instead of forcing people into it he was just killing them. Thereby leaving (in his mind) a utopia. Correct?

He was essentially utilizing the same plan(s) brought up by !K_A! earlier, by making dissidents/undesirables disappear.

A forced utopia (essentially a retermed conquered populace) will always have resistance that will need to be neutralized. Even if done quietly, the populace will be cowed rather than happy and productive, making it a decided non-utopian existence. ;)

HandOfHeaven 2007-10-15 05:44 PM

Communes could be a possibility. But that's an entirely different discussion.

Vollstrecker 2007-10-15 05:51 PM

A commune by common definition is not a forced utopia...

That's like saying a Democracy isn't a totalitarian government, it's a "no shit".

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com·mune–noun
1. a small group of persons living together, sharing possessions, work, income, etc., and often pursuing unconventional lifestyles.
2. a close-knit community of people who share common interests.
3. the smallest administrative division in France, Italy, Switzerland, etc., governed by a mayor assisted by a municipal council.
4. a similar division in some other country.
5. any community organized for the protection and promotion of local interests, and subordinate to the state.
6. the government or citizens of a commune.

HandOfHeaven 2007-10-15 05:54 PM

Almost sounds like this cult I read about. Thanks for the definition though.

Vollstrecker 2007-10-15 06:06 PM

Religion is a mental (or spiritual if you believe that way) utopia, but it only works for believers. A nonbeliever in that type of environment would certainly not have a blissful time, that's for sure.

D3V 2008-04-15 09:26 AM

This point can almost tie into the religion thread, damn very interesting.

krisvek 2008-04-26 10:56 PM

Utopia doesn't exist. It's impossible.

The world is large enough that even if we were all interbred according to a very detailed regimen in order to evenly mix and distribute the genepool, there would STILL be a variance of cultures, and in time, "races". After all, race isn't just skin color.

I can't imagine anything or anyone derived from human-kind in the near future capable of forcing a homogeneous culture upon the whole population, either.

Maybe when the singularity comes along though :) Or the aliens.

Willkillforfood 2008-04-27 01:28 PM

The only way we could be utopian is through a nearly averted apocalypse. It'd have to kill almost all of the population, set aside a smallish group. This would be temporary though as the shock of the situation wore off and the population grew.

D3V 2008-04-27 07:11 PM

Or possibly a new colonization on a new planet/underground civilization of course.

zonalon 2008-06-26 01:10 PM

A Jewtopia more like it. This is exactly what the Jews want. They want everyone to be 'race'-free, culture-free, without freedom, with the "pure" Jew residing in Israel over his culture-less, 'raceless' goyim. He wants to eliminate all Aryan features (blonde, red, brown hair, blue, brown, hazel eyes, etc), all Negroid features (charcoal black skin, etc), Mongoloid features (squinty eyes, jet black hair, etc), and instead just create a worldwide mongrelized "race" in which all people are brown, culture-less, and easily dominated.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-26 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zonalon (Post 642418)
A Jewtopia more like it. This is exactly what the Jews want. They want everyone to be 'race'-free, culture-free, without freedom, with the "pure" Jew residing in Israel over his culture-less, 'raceless' goyim. He wants to eliminate all Aryan features (blonde, red, brown hair, blue, brown, hazel eyes, etc), all Negroid features (charcoal black skin, etc), Mongoloid features (squinty eyes, jet black hair, etc), and instead just create a worldwide mongrelized "race" in which all people are brown, culture-less, and easily dominated.

If you didn't have such a clear bias, I would probably at the very least investigate or consider what you're talking about. However, you're coming across as FANATICAL. YOU ARE B-A-T-S-H-I-A-T INSANE.

Vollstrecker 2008-06-26 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zonalon (Post 642418)
A Jewtopia more like it. This is exactly what the Jews want. They want everyone to be 'race'-free, culture-free, without freedom, with the "pure" Jew residing in Israel over his culture-less, 'raceless' goyim. He wants to eliminate all Aryan features (blonde, red, brown hair, blue, brown, hazel eyes, etc), all Negroid features (charcoal black skin, etc), Mongoloid features (squinty eyes, jet black hair, etc), and instead just create a worldwide mongrelized "race" in which all people are brown, culture-less, and easily dominated.

I was excited to see this thread revived, and then I read this.

De-repped for being an asswang.

zonalon 2008-06-27 03:03 AM

How am I insane? So anyone who is opposed to zionist worldwide oppression is insane? Tell me what sort of benefit diluting bloodlines (race mixing) has for any humans? What evidence do you have to support that mongrelized individuals are any more intelligent or even physically better off than a pure raced individual? All future advances of humanity will cease if the Jew succeeds in mongrelizing races. The Aryans, Caucasoids, Mongoloids, Negroids are almost always far better off staying pure, but the Jew, the most notorious mongrel, wishes nothing else than to see this purity diluted. Take a look at India, for example, if you think "racism" will end due to blood dilution then, you have no idea what you are talking about. The higher caste almost always has more Aryan blood and the lower caste is basically, Dravidian.

The people who support this Jewtopia are either A. Jews B. Race-mixers (I'm assuming you have a Negroid or Mongoloid mate?) C. Brainwashed and Jewified

At least the blood diluters who have some sort of affection for the race-mixing they are doing have a true reason for what they're doing (albeit I don't agree with it), whereas you seem to have some political agenda behind it. A Jewified hatred of pure races and cultures perhaps?

Vollstrecker 2008-06-27 02:14 PM

Delicious copypasta.

Yawgmoth 2008-06-27 02:34 PM

Allright, I did not see this thread before - but this makes me unhappy. Zonalon, why do you do this? Your arguments are stupid and weak, I see no reason for treating you as a human being. I am not sure if I can ban you for this, so I will go re-read the rules.

zonalon 2008-06-27 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth (Post 642566)
Allright, I did not see this thread before - but this makes me unhappy. Zonalon, why do you do this? Your arguments are stupid and weak, I see no reason for treating you as a human being. I am not sure if I can ban you for this, so I will go re-read the rules.

Ok. So tell me even if this isn't a Jewish conspiracy, what benefit does it have?

You all want turn humans with separate traits: blonde hair, blue eyes, green eyes, hazel eyes, charcoal black skin, squinty eyes, straight hair, etc. etc. things that make us all supposedly "diverse" into one generic brown mongrels? This doesn't make any sense to me. I hate to be offensive, but no one wants to look like Tiger Woods, easily the biggest mongrel on Earth. I have nothing against pre-existing mongrels, but I disagree that everyone should become a mongrel.


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